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msh210 - 22 Jun 2009 03:44 GMT
Google's archive doesn't reveal any discussion of a possible SDC for
this year,[*] so i'll just post this SDC-like question here and now.
(Note that, aside from being SDC-like, the question is completely off-
topic for AUE.)

What is this a complete list of?

BED, DAY, DFW, IND, LAX, ONT, TDZ, TIK

Michael Hamm

[*] Many of you will recognize me as a former regular here; more of
you, as a contributor to past SDCs.  This footnote was written for the
balance.  Since I'm no longer at all regular -- not even lurking, let
alone posting -- I had resort to Google in my attempt to determine the
likelihood of an SDC.
John Doe - 22 Jun 2009 04:25 GMT
> Google's archive doesn't reveal any discussion of a possible SDC for
> this year...

Unfortunately, Google has destroyed access to the USENET archive.

Accessing the USENET archive has become increasingly difficult ever
since Google took over from DejaNews. Today, all of the
discussion/information contributed over the last 30 years or so on
USENET by our peers is effectively gone. I enjoyed using the archive
for a quick look at word usage. That is all gone too.

A not-for-profit read-only USENET archive would probably be inexpensive
to maintain. I am probably many others would be willing to pay a small
fee for access. A new archive could use old posts or start from
scratch. Also possible is that there are non Google USENET archives out
there somewhere. If so, maybe one of them will open up.
John Doe - 22 Jun 2009 04:28 GMT
Sorry, probably more like "20 years".
Mark Brader - 22 Jun 2009 05:15 GMT
Michael Hamm:
> What is this a complete list of?
>
> BED, DAY, DFW, IND, LAX, ONT, TDZ, TIK

Okay, DFW is Dallas - Fort Worth International, IND is Indianapolis,
LAX is Los Angeles International, and I think ONT is Ontario CA,
Now I'm guessing that DAY is not Dayton OH but Daytona FL, and that
although we're using airport codes, the connection between the
cities is car racing, as in the Indy 500 and Daytona 500.

So are they the principal airport codes corresponding to all the
venues used by a particular racing league or whatever they call it?
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R H Draney - 22 Jun 2009 08:02 GMT
Mark Brader filted:

>Michael Hamm:
>> What is this a complete list of?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>So are they the principal airport codes corresponding to all the
>venues used by a particular racing league or whatever they call it?

Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:

 Bedford, Massachusetts
 Dayton, Ohio (James M Cox International)
 Dallas/Ft Worth, Texas
 Indianapolis, Indiana
 Los Angeles, California
 Ontario, California
 Toledo, Ohio
 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (Tinker AFB)

The common property shared by these eight airports and no others eludes me....r

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msh210 - 23 Jun 2009 23:23 GMT
R H Draney abed:
> Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>   Toledo, Ohio
>   Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (Tinker AFB)

The assumption is correct.

> The common property shared by these eight airports and no others eludes me.

The elusion will, I hope, pass.

Michael Hamm
msh210 - 26 Jun 2009 22:40 GMT
I abed:
> > Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> The assumption is correct.

How would one get to, say, Tinker AFB?

Michael Hamm
Skitt - 26 Jun 2009 23:44 GMT
> I abed:
>>> Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> How would one get to, say, Tinker AFB?

That would depend on the starting point.
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John Holmes - 27 Jun 2009 08:14 GMT
>> I abed:
>>>> Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> That would depend on the starting point.

Absolutely right; in fact you can't get there from here at all.

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tsuidf - 07 Jul 2009 22:04 GMT
> >> I abed:
> >>>> Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Absolutely right; in fact you can't get there from here at all.

Well, unless you started a week ago last Tuesday.  I certainly
wouldn't start here now.

But, also OT, I have actually been there (Tinker AFB, I mean).
Excellent tour of AWACS planes, complete with attentive serviceman
who, when I pointed out the tacky cardboard cutouts hiding the
computer displays, didn't bat an eye, but just said, 'I know, ma'am,
it's horrible -- budget cutbacks.'

cheers,
Stephanie
Mark Brader - 27 Jun 2009 19:31 GMT
Is it perhaps time to reveal the answer to this, or at least a hint?
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R H Draney - 27 Jun 2009 01:14 GMT
msh210 filted:

>I abed:
>> > Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>How would one get to, say, Tinker AFB?

Practice, practice, practice?...r

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Hatunen - 27 Jun 2009 05:20 GMT
>msh210 filted:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Practice, practice, practice?...r

Or visit you nearest Air Force recruitment office...

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Jeffrey Turner - 27 Jun 2009 17:04 GMT
> I abed:
>>> Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> How would one get to, say, Tinker AFB?

Interstate highway?  Can't be.  First Street?

--Jeff

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msh210 - 02 Jul 2009 22:38 GMT
Jeffrey Turner abed:
> >>> Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
> >>>   Bedford, Massachusetts
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Interstate highway?  Can't be.

Why not?
R H Draney - 03 Jul 2009 04:45 GMT
msh210 filted:

>Jeffrey Turner abed:
>> >>> Assuming they're indeed all airport codes, the cities are:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Why not?

Because I believe the original question suggested that the list was a
comprehensive one...it looks like (spot checking) Bedford is near the confluence
of interstates 93 and 95, and Tinker is not far from where 35 and 40 meet....

But then you'd have to include places like Las Cruces, New Mexico (near the
junction of interstates 10 and 25) and probably Flagstaff (17 and 40)...so if
it's just interstates, there has to be more to it....r

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msh210 - 06 Jul 2009 17:34 GMT
R H Draney abed:
> >> >>> Bedford, Massachusetts
> >> >>> Dayton, Ohio (James M Cox International)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >> >>> Toledo, Ohio
> >> >>> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (Tinker AFB)

> I believe the original question suggested that the list was a
> comprehensive one...it looks like (spot checking) Bedford is near the confluence
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> junction of interstates 10 and 25) and probably Flagstaff (17 and 40)...so if
> it's just interstates, there has to be more to it.

Ah, so close.  These are the airports nearest the intersections of
Interstates 5 and 10, 10 and 15, 15 and 20, ..., and 90 and 95.  Of
course, many of those intersections don't exist, so were omitted from
the list.

Michael Hamm
Mark Brader - 06 Jul 2009 20:19 GMT
Michael Hamm:
> Ah, so close.  These are the airports nearest the intersections of
> Interstates 5 and 10, 10 and 15, 15 and 20, ..., and 90 and 95.  Of
> course, many of those intersections don't exist, so were omitted from
> the list.

Yowp!  Er, thanks.
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R H Draney - 07 Jul 2009 09:28 GMT
Mark Brader filted:

>Michael Hamm:
>> Ah, so close.  These are the airports nearest the intersections of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Yowp!  Er, thanks.

Then you need to change "LAX" to "BUR"..."VNY" comes close to beating the big
one too, depending on your choice of routes....r

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msh210 - 07 Jul 2009 18:28 GMT
R H Draney abed:
> > These are the airports nearest the intersections of
> > Interstates 5 and 10, 10 and 15, 15 and 20, ..., and 90 and 95.  Of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Then you need to change "LAX" to "BUR"..."VNY" comes close to beating the big
> one too, depending on your choice of routes.

My choice was the as-the-crow-flies route.  VNY is not in the running,
I don't think.  LAX and BUR seem to be almost the same distance from
the intersection of I-5 and I-10, but LAX seems to be me to be
slightly closer.  It's hard to tell, actually, and sorry if I mizzled.

Michael Hamm
R H Draney - 07 Jul 2009 22:29 GMT
msh210 filted:

>R H Draney abed:
>> > These are the airports nearest the intersections of
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>the intersection of I-5 and I-10, but LAX seems to be me to be
>slightly closer.  It's hard to tell, actually, and sorry if I mizzled.

Using Google Earth's "Ruler", I get:

 I-5/I-10 to BUR:  13.00 miles
 I-5/I-10 to LAX:  13.58
 I-5/I-10 to SMO:  13.87
 I-5/I-10 to LGB:  16.72
 I-5/I-10 to WHP:  18.10
 I-5/I-10 to VNY:  19.06

The John Wayne Airport (SNA) in Orange County, the Catalina Airport (CIB)
offshore, and the Palmdale (PMD) and Fox (WJF) airports in the high desert, are
all farther than Van Nuys....

The closest, though, actually seems to be the Compton/Woodley Airport (CPM), at
11.51 miles....r

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