There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
and had to forfeit the match. His opponent then entertained the crowd by
playing against the ball boys (one at a time) and then a ball girl. In
the words of one of the BBC commentators "She can play!". The video clip
is not accessible outside the UK. However, the girl was interviewed by
the media afterwards. I think that video is accessible. I'm drawing
attention to it because of her southern English accent and style of
speech. I have not visited that area for years but I suspect her speech
is not unusual.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8118674.stm

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Peter Duncanson, UK
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Nick - 25 Jun 2009 21:57 GMT
> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> is not unusual.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8118674.stm
Really good examples of how she makes every statement into a question?
It might have been Australian originally, but it's clearly part of young
British English these days?

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 25 Jun 2009 22:00 GMT
>> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
>> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>It might have been Australian originally, but it's clearly part of young
>British English these days?
As well as "uplift" at the end of each sentence she seems to have it on
other words too.

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the Omrud - 25 Jun 2009 23:29 GMT
>>> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
>>> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> As well as "uplift" at the end of each sentence she seems to have it on
> other words too.
Yes, it's a common feature of youth English, probably imported from
Australia via Neighbours. I feel that it's an invitation for
confirmation or acceptance of the statement - you'll see that she
doesn't do it on all sentences and I suspect that unconsciously, she
won't use the uplift where she's confident and doesn't require any
reinforcement. I think it's more common in the South East, as it's
somewhat more built into Estuary speech.
She was, by the way, delightful.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 25 Jun 2009 23:37 GMT
>>>> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
>>>> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
>She was, by the way, delightful.
She was. And she seemed to have things in proportion.

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tony cooper - 25 Jun 2009 22:18 GMT
>There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
>championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>is not unusual.
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8118674.stm
I don't follow tennis, but if I have to pick a tennis hero it would be
Tommy Haas. Such a nice thing to think of. The two ball boys and the
ball girl had an experience they'll never forget. Court 1.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 25 Jun 2009 22:37 GMT
>>There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
>>championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Tommy Haas. Such a nice thing to think of. The two ball boys and the
>ball girl had an experience they'll never forget. Court 1.
It was a nice thing to do.
I've never heard of it happening before at Wimbledon, or anywhere else.

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the Omrud - 25 Jun 2009 23:30 GMT
>>> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
>>> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> I've never heard of it happening before at Wimbledon, or anywhere else.
And the other player, who had to go off. He made certain that the girl
he'd collided with was OK and gave her a big hug.

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Mike Lyle - 26 Jun 2009 10:58 GMT
>>>> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
>>>> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> And the other player, who had to go off. He made certain that the
> girl he'd collided with was OK and gave her a big hug.
Connors once, in self-mockery after a foul-up, offered his racket to a
ball-boy. That ball-boy didn't behave with the aplomb described in this
incident, though.
On outer London's social gradations, I remember a Richmond pantomime
audience reacting with a hearty snigger to a double entendre. The actor
came out of character for a moment and pretended surprise: "I didn't
expect that from Richmond! Wimbledon, maybe..."

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HVS - 25 Jun 2009 22:23 GMT
On 25 Jun 2009, Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote
> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> her speech is not unusual.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8118674.stm
Fairly standard with elements of Estuary English, I'd say -- the
slight glottal stop in "Court one", and a few other things.

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Bertel Lund Hansen - 25 Jun 2009 22:36 GMT
Peter Duncanson (BrE) skrev:
> the media afterwards. I think that video is accessible. I'm drawing
> attention to it because of her southern English accent and style of
> speech.
I have just finished viewing The Inspector Lynley Mysteries (22
episodes). Barbara (Sharon Small actually) talks pretty much the
same way.
When I see young people on tv, I'm impressed by the way they
handle themselves. If I had had that much attention when I was
her age (whatever it is), I would have died of embarrasment. She
gave the impression of having done tv interviews all her life.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 25 Jun 2009 22:38 GMT
>Peter Duncanson (BrE) skrev:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>her age (whatever it is), I would have died of embarrasment. She
>gave the impression of having done tv interviews all her life.
She is aged 15.

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MC - 25 Jun 2009 22:55 GMT
> When I see young people on tv, I'm impressed by the way they
> handle themselves. If I had had that much attention when I was
> her age (whatever it is), I would have died of embarrasment. She
> gave the impression of having done tv interviews all her life.
They've grown up with camcorders.

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Mark Brader - 26 Jun 2009 10:46 GMT
Bertel Hansen:
> > She gave the impression of having done tv interviews all her life.
Matthew Cope:
> They've grown up with camcorders.
"A portable television studio! No wonder your president has to be
an actor: he's got to look good on television!"

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Raymond O'Hara - 25 Jun 2009 23:12 GMT
> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> is not unusual.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8118674.stm
Those ball kids have the best seats.
Fran Kemmish - 26 Jun 2009 14:41 GMT
> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
> and had to forfeit the match. His opponent then entertained the crowd by
> playing against the ball boys (one at a time) and then a ball girl. In
> the words of one of the BBC commentators "She can play!". The video clip
> is not accessible outside the UK.
As usual, it is already available on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg3WlosEBw0
Fran
agnon - 30 Jun 2009 13:32 GMT
> There was an incident during a match in the the Wimbledon tennis
> championships yesterday when a player, Michael Llodra, injured himself
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> is not unusual.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8118674.stm
Very interesting that she can "posh up" her accent to be more
understandable. I suspect she has a stronger accent when she's talking
to her pals.
contrex - 30 Jun 2009 21:15 GMT
> I suspect she has a stronger accent when she's talking to her pals.
Don't we all?
Robin Bignall - 30 Jun 2009 21:45 GMT
>> I suspect she has a stronger accent when she's talking to her pals.
>
>Don't we all?
No, I certainly don't.

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Robert Bannister - 01 Jul 2009 01:35 GMT
>>> I suspect she has a stronger accent when she's talking to her pals.
>> Don't we all?
>
> No, I certainly don't.
In the spirit of friendship, I think you should work on that. Pick an
interesting accent and exaggerate it so outsiders can't understand you.
Get your friends in on the act.

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Robin Bignall - 01 Jul 2009 22:00 GMT
>>>> I suspect she has a stronger accent when she's talking to her pals.
>>> Don't we all?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>interesting accent and exaggerate it so outsiders can't understand you.
>Get your friends in on the act.
What's friendship got to do with it? I'm absolutely useless at
mimicry so I'm forced to speak to all in the same manner.

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