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Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether to abandon ship and head over to aeu... Adrian > Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether > to abandon ship and head over to aeu... I do, but really my news server is taking care of spam these days. If yours doesn't, consider switching. Brian  SignatureDay 154 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project >Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether to >abandon ship and head over to aeu... I don't see spam in this newsgroup, but I do see some cross-postings from strange newsgroups inhabited by very strange people. No filter can stop that. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > I don't see spam in this newsgroup, but I do see some cross-postings > from strange newsgroups inhabited by very strange people. No filter > can stop that. Actually it is possible to automatically moderate a group to exclude cross-postings. misc.writing.screenplays was (and as far as I know still is) infested by cross-postings, so misc.writing.screenplays.moderated was formed to eliminate it. The moderation is handled by software and *only* filters out cross-posts. Signature"Don't water it down! You always water it down! Well, don't! Just don't!" - Mary Albinson >> I don't see spam in this newsgroup, but I do see some cross-postings >> from strange newsgroups inhabited by very strange people. No filter >> can stop that. > >Actually it is possible to automatically moderate a group to exclude >cross-postings. Agent, which Tony is using, has a "cross-post management" feature which will do this. No moderation required. SignatureDon Aitken Mail to the From: address is not read. To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com" >>> I don't see spam in this newsgroup, but I do see some cross-postings >>> from strange newsgroups inhabited by very strange people. No filter [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Agent, which Tony is using, has a "cross-post management" feature >which will do this. No moderation required. No filter - not in Agent, not in any newsreader - can filter out cross-posted messages from very strange people. Not with the group-jumping, name-changing, strange individuals who manage to get cross-posted into this group. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > > Agent, which Tony is using, has a "cross-post management" feature > > which will do this. No moderation required. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > group-jumping, name-changing, strange individuals who manage to get > cross-posted into this group. I have a number of filters in XanaNews for specific newsgroup cross-posts. There are many groups that I don't feel will provide a "legitimate" cross-post to the ones I read. Unfortunately, some people will decide to respond to the loons and remove the cross-post (for some reason thinking that is a good thing). That defeats the filters. Brian SignatureDay 155 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project El Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:50:34 -0400, MC escribió: > misc.writing.screenplays was (and as far as I know still is) infested by > cross-postings, so misc.writing.screenplays.moderated was formed to > eliminate it. The moderation is handled by software and *only* filters > out cross-posts. It's easy enough to set a filter on just about any newsreader to filter out cross-posted messages. SignaturePablo In alt.usage.english, Adrian Bailey wrote: >Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether to >abandon ship and head over to aeu... I have no filter other than (presumably) the one that comes automatically with news.individual.net. I see minimal spam: a quick survey finds just three in the last week. AAMOI is it coming from Google Groups, which used to be the main villain? SignatureMike Barnes Cheshire, England > In alt.usage.english, Adrian Bailey wrote: >> Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > AAMOI is it coming from Google Groups, which used to be the main > villain? Yes, the few spam messages I can see on the VirginMedia server have googlemail headers and gmail email addresses. SignatureDavid >> In alt.usage.english, Adrian Bailey wrote: >>> Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Yes, the few spam messages I can see on the VirginMedia server have >googlemail headers and gmail email addresses. The numerous gmail spammers I saw at one time appear to be leaving news.individual.net alone these days. That or the several filters I set against a few individuals during the spam rash are catching them. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE [...] It's good to see that you've returned to AUE. Maria, who may be leaving soon if I can't figure out how to get and install a new newsreader/whatever. AT&T (SBCGlobal) is bailing from newsgroups. (If that's not a dastardly deed, what is?) > Maria, who may be leaving soon if I can't figure out how to get and > install a new newsreader/whatever. AT&T (SBCGlobal) is bailing from > newsgroups. (If that's not a dastardly deed, what is?) You don't need a new newsreader. Go to news.albasani.net and establish a free account with them. It works fine, lasts long time ... SignatureSkitt (AmE) >> Maria, who may be leaving soon if I can't figure out how to get and >> install a new newsreader/whatever. AT&T (SBCGlobal) is bailing from [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > establish a free account with them. It works fine, lasts long time > ... The process to establish an albasani account has been begun. I tried Giganews, and then they informed me that I needed a separate "newsreader" to download groups. It all got too complicated for my failing comprehensive* abilities. Thanks, Alec. I think you mentioned them before, but.... And thanks to all who made recommendations. * On topic question: Should I have said "comprehension"? "Comprehending"? "Abililty to comprehend"? Maria Conlon >>> Maria, who may be leaving soon if I can't figure out how to get and >>> install a new newsreader/whatever. AT&T (SBCGlobal) is bailing from [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > * On topic question: Should I have said "comprehension"? > "Comprehending"? "Abililty to comprehend"? See? Stuff that makes an old person a slow learner. All that knowledge going to waste in indecision. By the way, Maria, someone here may help you find how to use Live Mail, etc. to download newsgroups. My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned if they didn't come and put in Windows Live Mail, and I can't make hide nor hair of it. I did manage to find and bring up her OE, so she was able to merge her Windows Address Book for email, but she doesn't use Usenet, so that is as much as I know about Live Mail. Wonder if it isn't the heir to Outlook, which, I believe was the descendent from Exchange. Wow, that was an elephant! No! It was a whale! But that was what I started using for email before IE and OE saved my sanity. But, with your new system, you don't have OE to fall back on. Tuff stuff. Pat In alt.usage.english, Pat Durkin wrote: >My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned if >they didn't come and put in Windows Live Mail, and I can't make hide >nor hair of it. I did manage to find and bring up her OE, so she was >able to merge her Windows Address Book for email, but she doesn't use >Usenet, so that is as much as I know about Live Mail. There's a lot I don't understand there, but my first reaction is: why can't she continue to use the software she used before? SignatureMike Barnes Cheshire, England >In alt.usage.english, Pat Durkin wrote: >>My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned if [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >There's a lot I don't understand there, but my first reaction is: why >can't she continue to use the software she used before? I'm sure (as I can be) that she can. I think that when Giga news says she needs a 'separate "newsreader" to download groups' that means simply that a newsreader is needed on her PC as opposed to reading ngs online as with Google. She already has a newsreader on her PC: Windows Mail. From the Giganews FAQ: http://www.giganews.com/faq.html Which news readers does Giganews Support? Giganews will support the setup of any news reader that is available to the general public. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >> In alt.usage.english, Pat Durkin wrote: >>> My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned if [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > PC as opposed to reading ngs online as with Google. She already has a > newsreader on her PC: Windows Mail. This should be interesting to Maria, who has been flumbustered by Vista's Windows Mail. She doesn't need Giganews, to read Usenet, you say? Can you provide some instructions for Maria so she can get rid of Giga and read Usenet Newsgroups in Windows Mail. That other stuff I wrote was about my sister, whose ISP/phone company, at her request, installed a DSL for her (She has XP), and, thinking Windows Mail an improvement, didn't explain any details to her about what would change, so she was left high and dry. And what's more, she has to pay a $200 charge to get rid of DSL before her contract ends. I exploded about that, and now she won't let me "help" her break the contract. She is stuck, and I am not about to download Windows Live Mail just to learn it so I can help her. She just shrugs and changes the subject when I ask things like "How long a contract is this?" Sorry, I suppose this is a rant that I should take to a support group for relatives of people who so fiercely fear losing control of anything in their lives that they pay $$$ to strangers. Anything but have family know how foolishly they are behaving. > From the Giganews FAQ: > http://www.giganews.com/faq.html [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Giganews will support the setup of any news reader that is > available to the general public. >>> In alt.usage.english, Pat Durkin wrote: >>>> My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned if [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >say? Can you provide some instructions for Maria so she can get rid of >Giga and read Usenet Newsgroups in Windows Mail. She is going with Albasani. With luck the information and instructions she receives will get her reading news in Windows Mail. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >>>> In alt.usage.english, Pat Durkin wrote: >>>>> My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > She is going with Albasani. With luck the information and instructions > she receives will get her reading news in Windows Mail. And if not, there's a Thunderbird (free) newsreader available. SignatureSkitt (AmE) > > She is going with Albasani. With luck the information and instructions > > she receives will get her reading news in Windows Mail. > > And if not, there's a Thunderbird (free) newsreader available. Let me _not_ recommend Evolution (a mail client that does Usenet news), which is what I have been using since knode decided to get flaky about posting from my slightly oddball OS setup (Ubuntu Linux on a decidedly non-Intel Macintosh G5). It works, but it doesn't understand threads. I think I'm headed for Thunderbird or Pan, but open to suggestions. SignatureRoland Hutchinson He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba," ... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy. --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ ) > Let me _not_ recommend Evolution (a mail client that does Usenet news), > which is what I have been using since knode decided to get flaky about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I think I'm headed for Thunderbird or Pan, but open to suggestions. I strongly recommend Pan for FreeAgent-lookalike under Linux. Its only major drawback is its underfeatured score file editor (Pan doesn't kill posts, it "scores" them, giving you option to not see posts with low total score). SignatureAlec Kojaev St.Petersburg, Russia [30E18 59N56] > > Let me _not_ recommend Evolution (a mail client that does Usenet news), > > which is what I have been using since knode decided to get flaky about [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > kill posts, it "scores" them, giving you option to not see posts with low > total score). Thanks. It sounds a good fit for me, especially since I find I don't have much occasion to use the killfile in the groups I read regularly. SignatureRoland Hutchinson He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba," ... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy. --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ ) >> Let me _not_ recommend Evolution (a mail client that does Usenet news), >> which is what I have been using since knode decided to get flaky about [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > kill posts, it "scores" them, giving you option to not see posts with low > total score). Is there any way to go back to a previous, read, post (so when browsing through unread ones, to go back to the last one read, not the immediate one before this in the thread)? I gave up on Pan when I couldn't do that. SignatureOnline waterways route planner: http://canalplan.org.uk development version: http://canalplan.eu >> I strongly recommend Pan for FreeAgent-lookalike under Linux. Its >> only major drawback is its underfeatured score file editor (Pan doesn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > one before this in the thread)? I gave up on Pan when I couldn't do > that. There's backspace key that is listed as "Read Back" on the keys list, but I guess it goes to the article immediately "above" the one you're reading, not the previously read one. Then there's 'V' which does the same without back-paging through the current article, and 'U' which goes to the parent post... No, I don't think there's an easy way to recently read posts, unless you set the header pane to display only unread posts. SignatureAlec Kojaev St.Petersburg, Russia [30E18 59N56] >>> I strongly recommend Pan for FreeAgent-lookalike under Linux. Its >>> only major drawback is its underfeatured score file editor (Pan doesn't [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >but I guess it goes to the article immediately "above" the one you're >reading, not the previously read one. That's not true for Agent5. The backspace key takes you back to the last read post and it will do that for 100 posts. >Then there's 'V' which does the >same without back-paging through the current article, and 'U' which goes >to the parent post... No, I don't think there's an easy way to recently >read posts, unless you set the header pane to display only unread posts. SignatureRobin (BrE) Herts, England Robin Bignall wrote, in <ptth5590la8s5okruhsfm693ica1b78aah@4ax.com> on Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:37:58 +0100: > > There's backspace key that is listed as "Read Back" on the keys list, > >but I guess it goes to the article immediately "above" the one you're > >reading, not the previously read one. > > That's not true for Agent5. The backspace key takes you back to the > last read post and it will do that for 100 posts. You can change that by editing agent.ini. From Help: BackupLimit=<n> The maximum number of times you can use the Backup key to back up to previous messages. Default is 100. Having backed up Shift-Backspace brings you forward again. SignatureNick Spalding BrE/IrE >>>> I strongly recommend Pan for FreeAgent-lookalike under Linux. Its >>>> only major drawback is its underfeatured score file editor (Pan doesn't [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > That's not true for Agent5. The backspace key takes you back to the > last read post and it will do that for 100 posts. That's right, but we're talking about Pan here (and, by a strange coicidence, my random music playing progam is playing "The Pan Within" as I type). Agent does it brilliantly, Gnus does it in a useable way, Pan I just can't get to do it. So when you've read down through a thread and realised that no-one has made the point you want to, you can't get back and make it. That, alone, was enough to get me to ditch Pan a while back - and I was just checking that it hadn't been fixed (or I hadn't just missed it). Shame - it's otherwise excellent. SignatureOnline waterways route planner: http://canalplan.org.uk development version: http://canalplan.eu Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote, in part: > I think that when Giga news says she needs a 'separate "newsreader" to > download groups' that means simply that a newsreader is needed on her [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > available > to the general public. As far as I know, Windows Mail does not support regular newsgroups -- just their own Windows discussion groups, which are used for asking/answering questions about Windows/Microsoft. I've used that feature, but the results were either too technical (I couldn't understand) or too simple (I already knew what they were saying, and it wasn't enough). In general, however, it seemed to be more for "techies" and not for the vast lot of Windows users. That, of course, is just my opinion. Giganews mentioned several "newsreaders" they work with, but did not mention Windows Mail. I'd think that Giganews would know (and mention) Windows Mail if it works for downloading newsgroups, BICBW. Btw, some time today, I'll download newsgroups through albasani. As to Windows _Live_ Mail, does anyone here have it? I got it, then cancelled it. I figured it was something like Instant Messenger (or whatever it was called), and that's not something I want. It seems to be for people who are more "connected" than I am. I don't even do Facebook. (Yet.) Until later, thanks again for all the suggestions and information. I really appreciate your help. Maria Conlon, resident of southeast Michigan, near Detroit; native of east Tennessee. (And currently involved in selling a house in Tennessee, which may explain some of my recent inattention to other matters.) > Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote, in part: >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > enough). In general, however, it seemed to be more for "techies" and not > for the vast lot of Windows users. That, of course, is just my opinion. This reply is being sent via Windows Mail. What you need to do with Windows Mail is to set up the new server you wish to use as an Account. Tools > Accounts > Add and supply the information requested. You can then go Tools > Newsgroups and click on the server account in the left pane and then select the newsgroups you wish to subscribe to from the list to the right. I hope this message arrives! SignaturePeter Duncanson >I hope this message arrives! Eureka! I used Windows Mail and the server at news.individual.net to post that message. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) > In alt.usage.english, Pat Durkin wrote: >> My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned if [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > There's a lot I don't understand there, but my first reaction is: why > can't she continue to use the software she used before? First, her visual faculties are sadly depleted. She never really bothered to learn to use her computer when she got Win 95 in 1998. I mean, simple things like copy/paste are beyond her. And now, for her to concentrate and to learn something new is very difficult. But she plays Scrabble, and reads email. She lives 100 miles away, and when I go to see her, we have to go visit other people, so I don't have time to "fix" what she has or to backfill on the dumb Windows Mail setup. She would have to _relearn_ OE. At this stage, when she sends email it is only rarely that she sends an original message. Mainly she forwards or replies. She is dealing with complications of diabetes, including, now, kidney failure and pending dialysis. I don't nag her any more. And she is only a year older than I. >> In alt.usage.english, Pat Durkin wrote: >>> My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned if [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > see her, we have to go visit other people, so I don't have time to "fix" > what she has or to backfill on the dumb Windows Mail setup. I have installed TeamViewer, free for personal use: http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx on Dad's PC. You can set it up with a fixed password and as a system service, so you can connect and control the PC even if all they can do is switch on the power. SignatureDavid >>> In alt.usage.english, Pat Durkin wrote: >>>> My sister had her phone company install a DSL, and I'll be damned [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > service, so you can connect and control the PC even if all they can do > is switch on the power. Thanks, David. I know there are a couple of programs that let a second person set up and control another's PC, but have hesitated to try that. My nephew used "Go to my PC" (or something like that) on his dad's PC and totally confused Lou, whose skills, again, were somewhat lacking. But I think Joe might have done things without telling my b-i-l Lou, assuming Lou would catch on to new features. Nope. Lou learned WordPerfect, and even though he lost the guides, he never got into other word processors. Maybe I am past the ability to try new software, but I might give it a try, seeing as how I will be visiting my sister in two weeks. (These are two different families, living in two different directions from me.) <snip> >And she is only a year older than I. I wish I were comfortable with such phrases, as my mother and hers before her were, for they are probably the Queen's English even today, but I just have to stick an "am" at the end. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > before her were, for they are probably the Queen's English even today, > but I just have to stick an "am" at the end. Oh, Chuck. After a discussion in the past 2 weeks over the Brit tendency to add a suitable verb to complete the clause, you can see that you are just about caught up in topics here. I don't think I participated, but much of the discussion (thankfully brief) had to do with a tendency of some people to use "have" or "do" or "is", etc. To me, adding that verb makes an emphatic statement out of a simple comparative. I think the discussion went something like "He spoke more frequently than she_____." Would you have added "did" or "spoke"? To me, the issue is moot, and the added verb redundant. The other aspect went into the use of present perfect. I stop the sentence after the clause subject, others after the participle. "Have you had as much fun as I [have, have had?"] I don't recall any discussion with changes in verb. "Did you have as much fun as he [had, did]?" >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >[have, have had?"] I don't recall any discussion with changes in verb. >"Did you have as much fun as he [had, did]?" Like wishy-washy Charlie Brown, half the time I write or say "He spoke more frequently than she did" and the other half, "He spoke more frequently than she spoke", although I probably favour the first version, I'm not sure. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE >>> <snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > frequently than she spoke", although I probably favour the first > version, I'm not sure. But as you first commented, Chuck, you never stop at "than she", while I do. >>>> <snip> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > But as you first commented, Chuck, you never stop at "than she", while I > do. Don't other people find it odd? It may be correct, in some senses of "correct", but "than her" is by far more usual if you omit the verb. SignatureRob Bannister >>>>> <snip> >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Don't other people find it odd? It may be correct, in some senses of > "correct", but "than her" is by far more usual if you omit the verb. I suppose some people consider me a prick, and others a pedant. But among the people I talk to most cousins, sisters, neighbors, I don't notice any particular reaction. And I think most of them use the "than I" before "than me". Maybe they have been caught out fiercely enough in trying to say, "You have more money than me have (me do)." And some of them have had the training in applying lessons to new situations. No? "I, we, he, she, they before verbs, not me, us,him her them" seems to be a kind of apothegm. >>> But as you first commented, Chuck, you never stop at "than she", >>> while I do. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > I suppose some people consider me a prick, and others a pedant. I don't see how 'prick' comes into it. 'Pedant' possibly, but that may be just the way you and your family speak - a kind of micro-dialect. I'm certainly not going to defend the grammar of "than me", but I was saying that that is what most people say these days. But > among the people I talk to most cousins, sisters, neighbors, I don't > notice any particular reaction. And I think most of them use the "than [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "I, we, he, she, they before verbs, not me, us,him her them" seems to be > a kind of apothegm. As I said: "if you omit the verb". In other words, I assume that I and all the others are treating "than" as a kind of preposition. There is the similar case with "as", which I treat differently: I do not say (as many others do) "as big as me" - I have to use "I" and add a verb, but I find "as big as I" really weird, even though I'm happy with "like me". SignatureRob Bannister >>>> But as you first commented, Chuck, you never stop at "than she", >>>> while I do. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'm certainly not going to defend the grammar of "than me", but I was > saying that that is what most people say these days. Oh, I suppose you are correct. I would be the "p" word if I went around rolling my eyes when someone used an expression that "I wouldn't use". Or even worse, "correcting" them. But I don't. Those sloppy users don't know just how lucky they are!@. > But >> among the people I talk to most cousins, sisters, neighbors, I don't [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > but I find "as big as I" really weird, even though I'm happy with > "like me". Oh, yes. Even us saints are pestered by doubts and inconsistencies. >>>>> But as you first commented, Chuck, you never stop at "than she", >>>>> while I do. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >Oh, yes. Even us saints are pestered by doubts and inconsistencies. Are we? SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE >>>>>> But as you first commented, Chuck, you never stop at "than she", >>>>>> while I do. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Are we? Oh, us'ns does things just to peak your interest! >>>>> <snip> >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >Don't other people find it odd? It may be correct, in some senses of >"correct", but "than her" is by far more usual if you omit the verb. For me, "than her" goes against the grain, "than she" is too pedantic and "than she is" is just right. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE >>>>>> <snip> >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > For me, "than her" goes against the grain, "than she" is too pedantic > and "than she is" is just right. Funny, how often we resort to the Goldilocks variations, isn't it? >>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >Funny, how often we resort to the Goldilocks variations, isn't it? Being an engineer, I can't argue with what works. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE >> Maria, who may be leaving soon if I can't figure out how to get and >> install a new newsreader/whatever. AT&T (SBCGlobal) is bailing from [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > establish a free account with them. It works fine, lasts long time > ... To Skitt: Okay, now (after signing up for news.albasani.net) I've hit a snag. When I set up the account, everything seemed to go okay. But... when I try to get the list of newsgroups, I get a message that says "Windows Mail was unable to retrieve a list of newsgroups available on the server 'news.albasani.net.' 480 Authentication required." Do you have any idea what that might mean? Should some other name be used in the Account information? SignatureMaria >>> Maria, who may be leaving soon if I can't figure out how to get and >>> install a new newsreader/whatever. AT&T (SBCGlobal) is bailing from [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Do you have any idea what that might mean? Should some other name be > used in the Account information? The account name should be the e-mail address you gave albasani, and the password the one you received from them (along with what they said your username is). I think there is a box for "This server requires me to log on" that you have to check. I don't have "Windows Mail", so I don't know its fine details. SignatureSkitt (AmE) >> To Skitt: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > me to log on" that you have to check. I don't have "Windows Mail", so > I don't know its fine details. Thanks for your reply. I reviewed everything I'd put in when setting up the account, and found that I'd ignored the password that was sent to me and used a different one. Such an silly mistake. I'm now posting via albasani (as far as I know), but we'll see.... Again, thanks to all for the suggestions and help. And next, I'll be checking to see if QuoteFix is operational. SignatureMaria Conlon <conlonmaria@sbcglobal.net> wrote > > Thanks for your reply. I reviewed everything I'd put in when setting > up the account, and found that I'd ignored the password that was sent [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Again, thanks to all for the suggestions and help. And next, I'll be > checking to see if QuoteFix is operational. Now I'm trying a post with my actual name (on the account) rather than the email address. SignatureMaria Conlon > <conlonmaria@sbcglobal.net> wrote > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Now I'm trying a post with my actual name (on the account) rather than > the email address. It worked! Welcome back to Usenet, Maria. > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > install a new newsreader/whatever. AT&T (SBCGlobal) is bailing from > newsgroups. (If that's not a dastardly deed, what is?) I believe people have mentioned some free and low-cost substitutes for you. If not, we can do so. Brian SignatureDay 155 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project >>> In alt.usage.english, Adrian Bailey wrote: >>>> Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >news.individual.net alone these days. That or the several filters I >set against a few individuals during the spam rash are catching them. The news.individual.net server has a spam filter: http://www.individual.net/faq.php#1.5 We use a program called "cleanfeed" however which functions as a filter against spam and binaries in discussion groups. Every article that arrives is examined by the program and removed from the server if necessary. http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/cleanfeed/ SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >>>> In alt.usage.english, Adrian Bailey wrote: >>>>> Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether to [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/cleanfeed/ That alone is worth ten euros a year. SignatureRobin (BrE) Herts, England > I have no filter other than (presumably) the one that comes > automatically with news.individual.net. I see minimal spam: a quick > survey finds just three in the last week. Same here (about the minimal spam, although I haven't counted). SignatureSML >Have you all got spam filters? I haven't, and I'm wondering whether to >abandon ship and head over to aeu... > >Adrian I don't have one for newsgroups, but then I've not been experiencing any spam problems of late. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE |
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