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tony cooper - 10 Jul 2009 21:20 GMT
From:
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5685ER20090710

The headline is:  "UK records first H1N1 death in healthy patient"

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 10 Jul 2009 21:50 GMT
>From:
>http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5685ER20090710
>
>The headline is:  "UK records first H1N1 death in healthy patient"

There is one word missing from the headline that is present in the body
of the article: "otherwise".

   LONDON (Reuters) - British health authorities said on Friday they
   had recorded the first death from H1N1 flu in an otherwise healthy
   patient.
   
   The patient from Essex, eastern England, is the 15th to die in
   Britain from the virus, but unlike all the others had no underlying
   health conditions.

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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

tony cooper - 10 Jul 2009 22:19 GMT
>>From:
>>http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5685ER20090710
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>    Britain from the virus, but unlike all the others had no underlying
>    health conditions.

So, except for dying, the patient was otherwise in good health?

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Paul Wolff - 10 Jul 2009 22:37 GMT
>On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:50:14 +0100, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)"
><mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>So, except for dying, the patient was otherwise in good health?

Exactly so. Good health is a health condition, is it not? Triple-A
rating, the sort of condition we all like. No problem, squire.
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Paul

Paul Wolff - 10 Jul 2009 23:28 GMT
>tony cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>Exactly so. Good health is a health condition, is it not? Triple-A
>rating, the sort of condition we all like. No problem, squire.

Feel free to ignore "exactly so" (and the rest of it too, if you haven't
ignored it already).
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Paul

Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 10 Jul 2009 22:52 GMT
>>>From:
>>>http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5685ER20090710
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>So, except for dying, the patient was otherwise in good health?

That's correct.

The patient was in good health before catching the flu. Previous people
in Britain who died of the flu were not in good health before catching
the flu.

As it says here in a report about the fourth person in Britain to catch
the swine flu and die:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6630493.ece

   All the people who have so far died in Britain and have tested
   positive for swine flu were already suffering from underlying health
   problems, which may have made them vulnerable to infection or
   complications.

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Peter Duncanson, UK
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Glenn Knickerbocker - 10 Jul 2009 23:14 GMT
> <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >So, except for dying, the patient was otherwise in good health?
> That's correct.
> The patient was in good health before catching the flu.

Uh, I think Tony's point is about the period just after that, in between
catching the flu and dying.

¬R
Frank ess - 10 Jul 2009 23:25 GMT
>>>> From:
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5685ER20090710
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> That's correct.

[ ... ]

So, Tony, aside from collateral damage to the images of your immediate
correspondents, did your post have its desired effect? Which was ... ?

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Frank ess

contrex - 10 Jul 2009 23:54 GMT
Does this mean we're all gonna croak?
Skitt - 11 Jul 2009 00:39 GMT
> Does this mean we're all gonna croak?

Without exception.  I guarantee it.  It's merely a question of time.
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Skitt (AmE)

Arcadian Rises - 11 Jul 2009 01:44 GMT
Peter Duncanson wrote:

[...]

> As it says here in a report about the fourth person in Britain to catch
> the swine flu and die:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6630493...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> � � problems, which may have made them vulnerable to infection or
> � � complications.

I thought it was politically incorrect to call it "swine flu" because
it's insulting to the swine.
Jean Smith - 11 Jul 2009 03:35 GMT
>  Peter Duncanson wrote:
>  
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>  I thought it was politically incorrect to call it "swine flu" because
>  it's insulting to the swine.

Are we protected if we had it in the Carter Era?

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R H Draney - 11 Jul 2009 08:20 GMT
Jean Smith filted:

>>  I thought it was politically incorrect to call it "swine flu" because
>>  it's insulting to the swine.
>
>Are we protected if we had it in the Carter Era?

Apparently not...you need to have come down with it during the Wilson
administration....

(I had the first of the two shots for the 1976 "outbreak"; they had cancelled
the program by the time my appointment for the second was scheduled)....r

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An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
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John O'Flaherty - 11 Jul 2009 00:33 GMT
>>>From:
>>>http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5685ER20090710
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>So, except for dying, the patient was otherwise in good health?

Except for the fatal absence of "otherwise", the headline was fine.
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John

Jonathan Morton - 11 Jul 2009 11:22 GMT
>>>>The headline is:  "UK records first H1N1 death in healthy patient"
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Except for the fatal absence of "otherwise", the headline was fine.

Never mind - at least the main body of the article had "on" before Friday.

Regards

Jonathan
Arcadian Rises - 11 Jul 2009 14:59 GMT
[...]

> Except for the fatal absence of "otherwise", the headline was fine.

"And other than that, Mrs. Lincoln..."
Steve Hayes - 11 Jul 2009 12:25 GMT
>From:
>http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5685ER20090710
>
>The headline is:  "UK records first H1N1 death in healthy patient"

Now THAT disproves the Bible, which says that it is not the healthy who need a
physician.

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