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Yilaner - 19 Jul 2009 08:56 GMT
"Another great fact confronting the modern world is the discovery of
the method of training professionals, who specialize in particular
regions of thought..."

Here, is the author meaning that the discovery has been made and the
this is a terrific fact, or that the discovery has yet to be carried
out and it's is a big task for the modern world?

Thanks for your help!
Derek Turner - 19 Jul 2009 09:32 GMT
> Here, is the author meaning that the discovery has been made and the
> this is a terrific fact, or that the discovery has yet to be carried out
> and it's is a big task for the modern world?

Almost certainly the former. The discovery is an established fact, as I
read it.
John Ritson - 19 Jul 2009 10:45 GMT
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<a9c8bf0a-9cd5-4a28-9c9c-773f9d43b16a@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Yilaner <yilaner@gmail.com> writes
>"Another great fact confronting the modern world is the discovery of
>the method of training professionals, who specialize in particular
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Thanks for your help!

The use of 'confronting' suggests a third possibility. The 'great fact'
could be a problem - professionals being trained in narrower and
narrower specialities, unable to see the big picture.

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Steve Hayes - 20 Jul 2009 06:26 GMT
>"Another great fact confronting the modern world is the discovery of
>the method of training professionals, who specialize in particular
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>this is a terrific fact, or that the discovery has yet to be carried
>out and it's is a big task for the modern world?

Is it really a characteristic of professionals to specialise in particular
regions of thought?

Professional soccer players get transferred for huge sums of money, but I
thought they specialised in kicking a ball rather than regions of thought,
though I suppose they must think about where to place the ball.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 20 Jul 2009 11:22 GMT
>>"Another great fact confronting the modern world is the discovery of
>>the method of training professionals, who specialize in particular
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>thought they specialised in kicking a ball rather than regions of thought,
>though I suppose they must think about where to place the ball.

The mental aspect of the skill of successful soccer players perhaps
falls in the category know informally as "native cunning". Casual
observation suggests that it is separate from "intellectual ability".

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Robin Bignall - 20 Jul 2009 22:33 GMT
>>>"Another great fact confronting the modern world is the discovery of
>>>the method of training professionals, who specialize in particular
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>falls in the category know informally as "native cunning". Casual
>observation suggests that it is separate from "intellectual ability".

As I get older I begin to wonder whether all of these various
professional or trade skills sufficient enough to make a living from,
rather than just do as a hobby, are some form of knack that we're born
with.  Some people have a knack for playing basketball, for example,
which is probably spotted at school and then developed by training and
practice.  Maybe passing exams is just another knack.
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Roland Hutchinson - 21 Jul 2009 04:19 GMT
> >"Another great fact confronting the modern world is the discovery of
> >the method of training professionals, who specialize in particular
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> thought they specialised in kicking a ball rather than regions of thought,
> though I suppose they must think about where to place the ball.

Surely ninety percent of the game is half mental, just like baseball.

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Bob G - 20 Jul 2009 18:01 GMT
> "Another great fact confronting the modern world is the discovery of
> the method of training professionals, who specialize in particular
> regions of thought..."

The writer is not a native speaker, that's obvious to me. Here's what
I think he meant:

Another great problem confronting the world is how to train people in
all professions.
contrex - 20 Jul 2009 22:49 GMT
> The writer is not a native speaker, that's obvious to me.

Alfred North Whitehead, OM (February 15, 1861, Ramsgate, Kent, England
– December 30, 1947, Cambridge, Massachusetts, U.S.) was an English
mathematician who became a philosopher. He wrote on algebra, logic,
foundations of mathematics, philosophy of science, physics,
metaphysics, and education. He co-authored the epochal Principia
Mathematica with Bertrand Russell.

You don't get much more "native" than that, I would have thought, Bob
G.
Bob G - 21 Jul 2009 01:07 GMT
> > The writer is not a native speaker, that's obvious to me.
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> You don't get much more "native" than that, I would have thought, Bob
> G.

Well paint me yellow and call me a cab!  I used to have Alfred and
Bertie over for tea regularly and taught them all they knew.
Steve Hayes - 22 Jul 2009 04:13 GMT
>> The writer is not a native speaker, that's obvious to me.
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>You don't get much more "native" than that, I would have thought, Bob
>G.

I tend to confuse him with A,N. Wilson (lit. crit.), and have to look them up.

But one would think that someone who wrote about logic could string together
words to make a sentence that is more logical than that, unless he has been
misquoted.

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Athel Cornish-Bowden - 22 Jul 2009 07:56 GMT
>> The writer is not a native speaker, that's obvious to me.
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> You don't get much more "native" than that, I would have thought, Bob
> G.

Well yes, but this is not the only quotation from Whitehead we've been
treated to in the past week that suggests a non-native writer.

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aquachimp - 22 Jul 2009 10:31 GMT
> "Another great fact confronting the modern world is the discovery of
> the method of training professionals, who specialize in particular
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thanks for your help!

Any chance of having a bit more of the quote?

I ask because I'm sort of with John Ritson on this one with regards to
the third possibility, ("- professionals being trained in narrower and
narrower specialities, unable to see the big picture.")  but from a
different angle;
It's the bit that goes; "discovery of " that I wish to question. Might
'realisation that ' not have been a better choice?
Or even 'discovery that'?
 
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