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Question - 22 Jul 2009 06:27 GMT She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her.
A) in case B) for fear that C) if D) so that E) lest
Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think?
Thanks.
aquachimp - 22 Jul 2009 10:34 GMT > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks. The first 3 The last doesn't quite fit right unless changed a bit. D) doesn't add up at all for me.
HVS - 22 Jul 2009 10:55 GMT On 22 Jul 2009, Question wrote
> She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think? (c), I'd say.
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Ian Jackson - 22 Jul 2009 11:16 GMT >On 22 Jul 2009, Question wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >(c), I'd say. (C) is obviously correct. [It would also be correct for "when".]
(A), (B) and (E) are OK but, in the scenario which I am imagining, I'm not quite sure that "awkward" is the word to use. "Inhibited" might be better.
You wouldn't say (D).
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Eric Walker - 22 Jul 2009 11:06 GMT > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think? The closest is A, "in case", though "in case" does not seem an idiomatic way of putting it. The idea that someone may feel awkward doing something if others are watching is common and simple enough; but a more idiomatic expression of that thought would be "She felt awkward because someone might be watching [her]."
The next-closest is B, though the sentence is not quite logical: the awkwardness does not derive from the fear but from the watching. Thus, "She felt awkward for fear that someone was watching her" does not state exactly the same thought.
The only other plausible possibility, E, does not work either. In one sense, lest means "for fear of", but that fear is of a _future_ consequence: "don't speak loudly lest you be overheard"; "lest someone was watching her" would be unsound tense use. In a related sense, lest means more or less "that", but again only as a future consequence and only after some expression of fear ("He was afraid lest he fall and break a leg."), so again there would be a mismatch of tenses.
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Eric Walker - 22 Jul 2009 11:06 GMT > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think? The closest is A, "in case", though "in case" does not seem an idiomatic way of putting it. The idea that someone may feel awkward doing something if others are watching is common and simple enough; but a more idiomatic expression of that thought would be "She felt awkward because someone might be watching [her]."
The next-closest is B, though the sentence is not quite logical: the awkwardness does not derive from the fear but from the watching. Thus, "She felt awkward for fear that someone was watching her" does not state exactly the same thought.
The only other plausible possibility, E, does not work either. In one sense, lest means "for fear of", but that fear is of a _future_ consequence: "don't speak loudly lest you be overheard"; "lest someone was watching her" would be unsound tense use. In a related sense, lest means more or less "that", but again only as a future consequence and only after some expression of fear ("He was afraid lest he fall and break a leg."), so again there would be a mismatch of tenses.
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Eric Walker - 22 Jul 2009 11:06 GMT > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think? The closest is A, "in case", though "in case" does not seem an idiomatic way of putting it. The idea that someone may feel awkward doing something if others are watching is common and simple enough; but a more idiomatic expression of that thought would be "She felt awkward because someone might be watching [her]."
The next-closest is B, though the sentence is not quite logical: the awkwardness does not derive from the fear but from the watching. Thus, "She felt awkward for fear that someone was watching her" does not state exactly the same thought.
The only other plausible possibility, E, does not work either. In one sense, lest means "for fear of", but that fear is of a _future_ consequence: "don't speak loudly lest you be overheard"; "lest someone was watching her" would be unsound tense use. In a related sense, lest means more or less "that", but again only as a future consequence and only after some expression of fear ("He was afraid lest he fall and break a leg."), so again there would be a mismatch of tenses.
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Mark Brader - 22 Jul 2009 21:02 GMT We were asked about:
> > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > D) so that > > E) lest
> The closest is A, "in case", though "in case" does not seem an idiomatic > way of putting it. The idea that someone may feel awkward doing [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > "She felt awkward for fear that someone was watching her" does not state > exactly the same thought. My first reaction was along those lines, though I preferred B to A.
Then I saw someone else proclaiming that that answer was C, and realized I'd made an assumption. I assumed that she *always* felt awkward when dancing, and that this was because someone *might* be watching her, and I think Eric's made the same assumption.
However, the sentence could mean that she *only* felt awkward when dancing *if she knew that* someone is watching her. In which case C works perfectly. (Of course, dancing is often performed with a partner, in a room where many other people are there, so it's quite likely that someone is watching -- at least the partner. But it doesn't have to be! One can dance by oneself. Or in Fred Astaire's case, with a piece of furniture...)
Since none of the options for the first interpretation is really idiomatic, I'd say that C is the best answer.
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Eric Walker - 22 Jul 2009 11:06 GMT > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think? The closest is A, "in case", though "in case" does not seem an idiomatic way of putting it. The idea that someone may feel awkward doing something if others are watching is common and simple enough; but a more idiomatic expression of that thought would be "She felt awkward because someone might be watching [her]."
The next-closest is B, though the sentence is not quite logical: the awkwardness does not derive from the fear but from the watching. Thus, "She felt awkward for fear that someone was watching her" does not state exactly the same thought.
The only other plausible possibility, E, does not work either. In one sense, lest means "for fear of", but that fear is of a _future_ consequence: "don't speak loudly lest you be overheard"; "lest someone was watching her" would be unsound tense use. In a related sense, lest means more or less "that", but again only as a future consequence and only after some expression of fear ("He was afraid lest he fall and break a leg."), so again there would be a mismatch of tenses.
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Eric Walker - 22 Jul 2009 11:12 GMT > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think? It seems quite likely that the thought wanting expression is that she (like many people) feels nervous or awkward doing certain things if she knows that others are watching her, one of those things being dancing.
In that case, the simple and clear choice is C:
"She liked to dance but felt awkward if someone was watching her."
The others are not patently absurd, but come less close to expressing the presumed idea clearly and simply.
The runner-up is A, "in case", though "in case" is not an idiomatic way of putting it. A more idiomatic expression of that variant idea would be "She felt awkward because someone might be watching her." But the statement would amount to saying that she felt awkward dancing owing to the mere possibility, not certainty, that others were watching her.
The next-closest is B, though the sentence again expresses a thought different from what seems the obvious one. "She felt awkward for fear that someone was watching her" bases her awkwardness on her fear, rather than on any actual watching.
The only other plausible possibility, E, does not work either, for the same reasons as B, the meaning of which it closely parallels.
E, "so that", simply makes no sense: it confounds cause and effect, saying that someone is watching her because she feels awkward.
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Eric Walker - 22 Jul 2009 11:18 GMT Somehow several duplicate copies of an early draft of this post escaped into the wild. I have tried sending Cancel notices, and hope that will catch them.
Either way, I apologize.
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Don Phillipson - 22 Jul 2009 12:22 GMT > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think? This is a bad question because ambiguous: it does not specify whether "correct" means grammatically conforming or stylistically preferable. Every solution might be grammatically correct in some contexts.
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bert - 22 Jul 2009 13:11 GMT > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which one(s) is/are correct, do you think? (C) is correct, and sensible.
(D) is nonsense.
(A), (B), and to a lesser extent (E), are grammatically correct, but contradictory. If she felt awkward about the possibility that someone was watching, it would always be a possibility, so she could never LIKE dancing; nobody likes feeling awkward. --
aquachimp - 22 Jul 2009 16:08 GMT > > She liked to dance but felt awkward ---- someone was watching her. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > dancing; nobody likes feeling awkward. > -- Perhaps she liked to dance but felt awkward -(F) when- someone was watching her.
Except for those occasions when she might be entirely alone, such as at home, with the curtains closed, there would always be the possibility that someone might be watching her, or that she might imagine that to be the case.
Feeling awkward is not the same as 'She would not dance (A) (B) (C) someone was watching her'. Therefore I don't agree that any of those options are contradictory in the original question.
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