Plural of 'Homo sapiens'
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DavidW - 24 Jul 2009 01:48 GMT As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I have the impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') that most people think of it as a plural. What is the technically correct plural? Some online references give the plural as Homo sapiens also, though I wonder if that's only because widespread ignorance has taken hold. I also came across Homines sapientes. My guess was Homo sapienses, but that doesn't seem to have much support.
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Garrett Wollman - 24 Jul 2009 03:04 GMT >As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I have the >impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') that >most people >think of it as a plural. What is the technically correct plural?
> ["Homo sapiens" versus "Homines sapientes"] Although the binomial nomenclature uses names taken from Latin, they do not pluralize as Latin nouns. Publishers and learned societies undoubtedly have specific rules; what I have seen most commonly[1] in English is the zero plural. The names of higher taxa are generally already plural (Hominidae, Chordata, Plantes, Archaebacteria, and so on). For genera, there is the thorny question of whether the intended meaning is multiple species (in which case, formal usage requires "/Genus/ species" or "/Genus/ spp.") or multiple individuals (where the species is unknown, unknowable, or irrelevant). Bacteriologists often consider only the genus, and even genera aren't as distinct as they are in other kingdoms thanks to the prevalence of lateral gene transfer.
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[1] In writing intended for laypeople, as I am not a systematist myself.
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DavidW - 24 Jul 2009 04:08 GMT >> As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but >> I have the impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > they are in other kingdoms thanks to the prevalence of lateral gene > transfer. So, if someone writes, "...the two above mentioned homo sapiens," I unfortunately have no grounds on which to claim that he's ignorant, even though there's a fair chance that he thinks he's writing the plural of 'Homo sapien'? IOW, he might have got it right by accident.
Garrett Wollman - 24 Jul 2009 05:10 GMT >So, if someone writes, "...the two above mentioned homo sapiens," I >unfortunately have no grounds on which to claim that he's ignorant, Sure you do. Genera are always capitalized, and taxa are always italicized. He should have written "...the two above-mentioned /Homo sapiens/...". On second reference, that could be "/H. sapiens/" with the genus /Homo/ understood. Of course, that's a rather odd and clunky way of putting it; "individuals" would be more normal (and would be understood regardless of the species referenced).
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Arcadian Rises - 24 Jul 2009 04:03 GMT > As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I have the > impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') that most people [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sapientes. My guess was Homo sapienses, but that doesn't seem to have much > support. Unless you're a Latin scholar, I don't understand why you need to know the plural of the name of the wise species to which I proudly belong. It's not like "homo novus", whose plural is "homines novi", which marks the first generation of senators, hence the need for plural.
Harry Lippitz - 24 Jul 2009 15:34 GMT > As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I > have the impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > hold. I also came across Homines sapientes. My guess was Homo sapienses, > but that doesn't seem to have much support. have read the other three responses to this thread, but still do not see an answer. To rephrase the question: are we all a group of: - Homo sapii? - Homo sapienses? - Homo sapein?
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James Hogg - 24 Jul 2009 15:46 GMT Quoth "Harry Lippitz" <johnsmith@micro$oft.com>, and I quote:
>> As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I >> have the impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > - Homo sapienses? > - Homo sapein? None of the above. Use the zero plural:
We are all a group of Homo sapiens.
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Roland Hutchinson - 24 Jul 2009 18:40 GMT > Quoth "Harry Lippitz" <johnsmith@micro$oft.com>, and I quote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > We are all a group of Homo sapiens. I think we are all Bozoi on this bus.
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Jeffrey Turner - 26 Jul 2009 18:14 GMT >> Quoth "Harry Lippitz" <johnsmith@micro$oft.com>, and I quote: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I think we are all Bozoi on this bus. Not Australopithecus bosei, at least.
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rwalker - 26 Jul 2009 02:24 GMT >> As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I >> have the impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Harry >SwE We are a group of Homo sapiens. No need for the pural. It is like deer. Sure, you could say deers, I suppose, but it is normally used as singular in construction but plural in meaning. Same with Homo sapiens.
Mike L - 24 Jul 2009 22:18 GMT > As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I have the > impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') that most people [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sapientes. My guess was Homo sapienses, but that doesn't seem to have much > support. As everybody has explained, this level of naming doesn't have a plural form. But if you take the two Latin words simply as a Latin expression meaning "wise people", then the plural would indeed be /homines sapientes/.
Sad to say, the "sapien" error is matched by the much commoner misunderstanding which makes "specie" the singular of "species": see bulb catalogues advertising "specie tulips".
-- Mike.
James Hogg - 24 Jul 2009 22:32 GMT Quoth Mike L <mike_lyle_uk@yahoo.co.uk>, and I quote:
>> As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I have the >> impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') that most people [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >misunderstanding which makes "specie" the singular of "species": see >bulb catalogues advertising "specie tulips". People in the past mistook "pease" for a a plural form and invented the back-formation "pea" as a singular, creating the new plural "peas". The same kind of error has given us the singular form "cherry". It seems that an "s" at the end of a singular noun entails the risk of misinterpretation as a plural. The word "riches" (from singular French "richesse") is treated as a plural in English.
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John Varela - 26 Jul 2009 01:16 GMT > People in the past mistook "pease" for a a plural form and > invented the back-formation "pea" as a singular, creating the new [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "riches" (from singular French "richesse") is treated as a plural > in English. Similarly for "shay", from "chaise".
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James Hogg - 26 Jul 2009 10:03 GMT Quoth "John Varela" <OLDlamps@verizon.net>, and I quote:
>> People in the past mistook "pease" for a a plural form and >> invented the back-formation "pea" as a singular, creating the new [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Similarly for "shay", from "chaise". That word was totally new to me.
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Donna Richoux - 26 Jul 2009 15:10 GMT > Quoth "John Varela" <OLDlamps@verizon.net>, and I quote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > That word was totally new to me. Then you never heard of the wonderful one-hoss shay? By Oliver Wendell Holmes, senior.
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Jeffrey Turner - 26 Jul 2009 18:16 GMT >> People in the past mistook "pease" for a a plural form and >> invented the back-formation "pea" as a singular, creating the new [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Similarly for "shay", from "chaise". How lounge have you known that?
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John Varela - 27 Jul 2009 01:04 GMT > >> People in the past mistook "pease" for a a plural form and > >> invented the back-formation "pea" as a singular, creating the new [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > How lounge have you known that? Oh, a longue time.
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Roland Hutchinson - 25 Jul 2009 01:58 GMT > > As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens is singular, but I have the > > impression from its usage (and the prevalence of 'Homo sapien') that most people [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > misunderstanding which makes "specie" the singular of "species": see > bulb catalogues advertising "specie tulips". If only the bulbs had been made of specie, the bubble might never have burst.
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Arcadian Rises - 24 Jul 2009 23:31 GMT > As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens Actually the biological name is "Homo sapiens sapiens".
Roland Hutchinson - 25 Jul 2009 02:03 GMT > > As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens > > Actually the biological name is "Homo sapiens sapiens". ObWiseGuy: That would be the biological name of our _subspecies_.
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Garrett Wollman - 25 Jul 2009 03:09 GMT >> > As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens >> >> Actually the biological name is "Homo sapiens sapiens". > >ObWiseGuy: That would be the biological name of our _subspecies_. ObWiserGuy: Only for those who believe that modern humans actually represent a subspecies, which is a matter in some dispute. (Indeed, the whole business of subspecies generally is in dispute.)
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Richard Bollard - 27 Jul 2009 01:14 GMT >>> > As the biological name of our species, Homo sapiens >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >represent a subspecies, which is a matter in some dispute. (Indeed, >the whole business of subspecies generally is in dispute.) Considered specious or possibly sub-specious.
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