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Irwell - 24 Jul 2009 16:17 GMT
Watching 'Kingdom' with CC switched ON.

'Did you find anything?"

"Nothing much, just some jam-jars and some old ape knees."
HVS - 24 Jul 2009 16:27 GMT
On 24 Jul 2009, Irwell wrote

> Watching 'Kingdom' with CC switched ON.
>
> 'Did you find anything?"
>
> "Nothing much, just some jam-jars and some old ape knees."

Ape knees have to be imported from distant lands, of course --
they're far things, they are.

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CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed

LFS - 24 Jul 2009 16:28 GMT
> On 24 Jul 2009, Irwell wrote
>
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> Ape knees have to be imported from distant lands, of course --
> they're far things, they are.

Ha. Used to be two a penny WIWAL.

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HVS - 24 Jul 2009 16:31 GMT
On 24 Jul 2009, LFS wrote

>> On 24 Jul 2009, Irwell wrote
>>
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>
> Ha. Used to be two a penny WIWAL.

[very good]

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CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed

John Dean - 24 Jul 2009 18:21 GMT
> On 24 Jul 2009, LFS wrote
>
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>
> [very good]

I once found four of them in an old purse.
Just my two pennorth.
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John Dean - 24 Jul 2009 18:21 GMT
> On 24 Jul 2009, Irwell wrote
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> Ape knees have to be imported from distant lands, of course --
> they're far things, they are.

Not as important as bees knees.
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John Dean
Oxford

HVS - 24 Jul 2009 18:22 GMT
On 24 Jul 2009, John Dean wrote

>> On 24 Jul 2009, Irwell wrote
>>
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>
> Not as important as bees knees.

I've never understood the attraction of jim-jams for cats.

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John Dean - 24 Jul 2009 23:05 GMT
> On 24 Jul 2009, John Dean wrote
>
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>
> I've never understood the attraction of jim-jams for cats.

Whereas dogs would be on the road to extinction without bollocks.
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Mike L - 24 Jul 2009 22:40 GMT
> Watching 'Kingdom' with CC switched ON.
>
> 'Did you find anything?"
>
> "Nothing much, just some jam-jars and some old ape knees."

Can't add to the feast of currency puns, but do keep a lookout for
"Tasmania" in your CC, and get back to us if you twig what it's a
mistake for. Driving me mad, it is.

But all these people are getting younger to the point of not knowing
things that seem quite ordinary to me. An interviewer on Woman's Hour,
talking to a woman who'd been in the Normandy landings planning group,
not only didn't know what a mulberry harbour was, but didn't know that
women danced with men in those days...

--
Mike.
Ildhund - 24 Jul 2009 23:25 GMT
Mike L wrote...
>> Watching 'Kingdom' with CC switched ON.
>>
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> "Tasmania" in your CC, and get back to us if you twig what it's a
> mistake for. Driving me mad, it is.

What is 'CC', please? I've ploughed through hundreds of google
results and I'm none the wiser.
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Irwell - 24 Jul 2009 23:56 GMT
> Mike L wrote...
>>> Watching 'Kingdom' with CC switched ON.
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> What is 'CC', please? I've ploughed through hundreds of google
> results and I'm none the wiser.

It is Closed Captioning on television sets,
usually helpful for the hard of hearing.
Not all programmes have it set up, most modern TV
sets have the capability to display CC, once it is
set a button marked CC will turn it on or off.
Ildhund - 25 Jul 2009 00:46 GMT
Irwell wrote...

>> What is 'CC', please? I've ploughed through hundreds of google
>> results and I'm none the wiser.
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> modern TV sets have the capability to display CC, once it is set a
> button marked CC will turn it on or off.

Thank you. My telly is clearly not exactly modern, and I would never
have guessed what Closed Caption(s)(ing) meant without Peter
Duncanson's explanation. I find it very frustrating, too, when I'm
instructed by someone on the box to 'press the red button' - if I
do, the set turns off.
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 25 Jul 2009 00:00 GMT
>Mike L wrote...
>>> Watching 'Kingdom' with CC switched ON.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>What is 'CC', please? I've ploughed through hundreds of google
>results and I'm none the wiser.

Closed Captions. These are what we who watch TV in Rightpondia call
Subtitles. That is, optional subtitles that can displayed on screen or
not by pressing the sub/subt./subtitle button on the remote control of
the TV, set-top-box, DVD player or whatever.

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Ildhund - 25 Jul 2009 00:37 GMT
Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote...

>>What is 'CC', please? I've ploughed through hundreds of google
>>results and I'm none the wiser.
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> screen or not by pressing the sub/subt./subtitle button on the
> remote control of the TV, set-top-box, DVD player or whatever.

Fancy that! My little box does have a remote control, but this only
has number buttons and up/down buttons for volume and channel. The
others are called sleep, mute, menu, normal and cancel. I don't
think I've ever used any of them.
Thank you.
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Noel

Skitt - 25 Jul 2009 01:13 GMT
> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote...

>>> What is 'CC', please? I've ploughed through hundreds of google
>>> results and I'm none the wiser.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> think I've ever used any of them.
> Thank you.

What options are under the "menu" selection?
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tony cooper - 25 Jul 2009 01:12 GMT
>>Mike L wrote...
>>>> Watching 'Kingdom' with CC switched ON.
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>not by pressing the sub/subt./subtitle button on the remote control of
>the TV, set-top-box, DVD player or whatever.

We normally use "subtitle" to describe the translation of the dialog
from some other language into English.  "Closed caption" is English
sound to English visual.

However, on a DVD, punching "subtitle" gives the view the opportunity
to read the dialog in English or (usually) Spanish or French.

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R H Draney - 25 Jul 2009 01:48 GMT
tony cooper filted:

>We normally use "subtitle" to describe the translation of the dialog
>from some other language into English.  "Closed caption" is English
>sound to English visual.
>
>However, on a DVD, punching "subtitle" gives the view the opportunity
>to read the dialog in English or (usually) Spanish or French.

With some DVDs, it's possible to enable both the subtitles (on the DVD player)
and the closed captions (on the TV set) at the same time, with intriguing
results...one disc I watched not long ago included the transcribed lyrics of the
theme song in one but not the other...another used American spellings (color,
optimize) in the captions but British (colour, optimise) in the subtitles....

I've also got one movie with a Portuguese soundtrack that has subtitles in
either Portuguese or Spanish, but not English...either someone has been liberal
with the transcription or Brazilians are almost as bad as the French when it
comes to pronouncing things the way they're spelled....r

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Pat Durkin - 25 Jul 2009 02:58 GMT
> tony cooper filted:
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> almost as bad as the French when it comes to pronouncing things the
> way they're spelled....r

You have an infection. Or else, you bought one movie.
Default User - 25 Jul 2009 01:53 GMT
> > > What is 'CC', please? I've ploughed through hundreds of google
> > > results and I'm none the wiser.
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> However, on a DVD, punching "subtitle" gives the view the opportunity
> to read the dialog in English or (usually) Spanish or French.

DVDs of TV shows will sometimes have both CC and English subtitles.

Brian

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Garrett Wollman - 25 Jul 2009 03:18 GMT
>DVDs of TV shows will sometimes have both CC and English subtitles.

That's because DVD subtitles are encoded as a separate data stream in
the DVD, but closed captions are encoded as a (normally invisible)
part of the picture.  Consumer video devices are required (under ADA
if I'm not mistaken) to pass through any caption data that was present
in the source material.

-GAWollman
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tony cooper - 25 Jul 2009 03:37 GMT
>> > > What is 'CC', please? I've ploughed through hundreds of google
>> > > results and I'm none the wiser.
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>
>DVDs of TV shows will sometimes have both CC and English subtitles.

I didn't know that.  I've never watched a DVD of a TV show.

>Brian

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Default User - 25 Jul 2009 06:00 GMT
> > DVDs of TV shows will sometimes have both CC and English subtitles.
> >
> I didn't know that.  I've never watched a DVD of a TV show.

I get DVD sets from the library, especially during the summer when
there's not as much regular TV going.

Brian

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