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Auden: lovers of big numbers

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Marius Hancu - 25 Jul 2009 13:18 GMT
Hello:

1. Which "Millerites" are these? Are they:
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: a believer in the doctrine of the American preacher William Miller
who taught that the end of the world and the second coming of Christ
were at hand and who specifically predicted that this would occur in
1843
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?

2. Why abolish the Swiss?
Are they too stingy/economical for the taste of the "lovers of big
numbers"?:-)

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Numbers and Faces
by W. H. Auden
...

Lovers of small number go benignly potty,
Believe all tales are thirteen chapters long,
Have animal doubles, carry pentagrams,
Are Millerites, Baconians, Flat-Earth-Men.

Lovers of big numbers go horridly mad,
Would have the Swiss abolished, all of us
Well purged, somatotyped, baptized, taught baseball:
They empty bars, spoil parties, run for Congress.

p. 473
http://ivihsm.cua.edu/poem0112.htm
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Mike L - 25 Jul 2009 21:36 GMT
> Hello:
>
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> -----------
> ?

I think those are the ones: examples of holders of harmless potty
views.

> 2. Why abolish the Swiss?
> Are they too stingy/economical for the taste of the "lovers of big
> numbers"?:-)

I don't understand that one, but I wonder if it refers to Swiss
neutrality, which people like that might find annoying. Or maybe it's
just a destructively insane opinion with no real rationale.

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> Numbers and Faces
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> p. 473
> http://ivihsm.cua.edu/poem0112.htm

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Mike.
Joe Fineman - 25 Jul 2009 23:58 GMT
>> 2. Why abolish the Swiss?

> I don't understand that one, but I wonder if it refers to Swiss
> neutrality, which people like that might find annoying. Or maybe
> it's just a destructively insane opinion with no real rationale.

Cf. the old joke:

 "The Jews are the cause of all our troubles."
 "Yes, the Jews -- and the bicycle riders."
 "Why the bicycle riders?"
 "Why the Jews?"

(Like many Jewish jokes, this one has other versions, each with its
own point.)
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Jerry Friedman - 26 Jul 2009 00:47 GMT
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> 2. Why abolish the Swiss?
> Are they too stingy/economical for the taste of the "lovers of big
> numbers"?:-)

Something like that.  I suspect the lovers of big numbers would
stereotype the Swiss as being content with small excellences in a
small country instead of wanting to reform the world.

> ----
> Numbers and Faces
> by W. H. Auden
> ...

> Lovers of big numbers go horridly mad,
> Would have the Swiss abolished, all of us
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> p. 473
> http://ivihsm.cua.edu/poem0112.htm
 
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