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Discussion Groups / English Usage / July 2009How to speak hidden english
Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of speaking english which others cant understand, It'll be useful for me and my Girl Friend to communicate so that no one who's present there cant understand. > Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of > speaking english which others cant understand, > It'll be useful for me and my Girl Friend to communicate so that no > one who's present there cant understand. What you need is Ago Tago. Somone'll be along in a minute to explain how it works. DC Quoth Django Cat <vivjunkmail@lineone.net>, and I quote: >> Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of >> speaking english which others cant understand, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >What you need is Ago Tago. Somone'll be along in a minute to explain >how it works. The egg language I learned at school made Hamlet's monologue start like this: Teggo begge eggor neggot teggo begge; theggat eggis thegge queggestieggon.  SignatureJames > Quoth Django Cat <vivjunkm...@lineone.net>, and I quote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Teggo begge eggor neggot teggo begge; theggat eggis thegge > queggestieggon. And I learned "Ropomopeo, Ropomopeo, whoperopfoporop arop top thopou, Ropomopeo?" (I can still say that fluently, but typing it took some work. And yes, I said it with the comma before "Romeo". I was just a kid.) -- Jerry Friedman Jerry Friedman skrev: > And I learned "Ropomopeo, Ropomopeo, whoperopfoporop arop top thopou, > Ropomopeo?" Here is a Danish method: Dod e a tot hoh, wow hoh e ror e i sos tot hoh y sos tot i non gog? SignatureBertel, Denmark > And I learned "Ropomopeo, Ropomopeo, whoperopfoporop arop top thopou, > Ropomopeo?" Those of us who grew up with PBS as a babysitter will always know where "ubboh tubboo wubbon thrubbee fubbour" is. ¬R > > Quoth Django Cat <vivjunkm...@lineone.net>, and I quote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > (I can still say that fluently, but typing it took some work. Especially the extra space in what should have been "aroptop". > And yes, I said it with the comma before "Romeo". I was just a kid.) -- Jerry Friedman's spellchecker didn't catch the error. >> Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of >> speaking english which others cant understand, >> It'll be useful for me and my Girl Friend to communicate so that no >> one who's present there cant understand. > What you need is Ago Tago. Somone'll be along in a minute to explain > how it works. Back slang? Or perhaps kcab gnals? Ew desud siht a tol ta loohcs. With best wishes, Peter. SignaturePeter Young, (BrE), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004. (US equivalent: Attending Anesthesiologist) Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired. http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk >>> Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of >>> speaking english which others cant understand, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Peter. I've asked before and received no reply so I'll inquire again. Are you by any chance related to Brigadier Peter Young the famed Commando leader? >>>> Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of >>>> speaking english which others cant understand, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Peter. > I've asked before and received no reply so I'll inquire again. > Are you by any chance related to Brigadier Peter Young the famed Commando > leader? Sorry, I didn't get the previous message, but then quite a few usenet messages don't seem to reach here. No, no relation, I regret, and in fact I know of no military people in the ancestry or contemporaries. With best wishes, Peter. SignaturePeter Young, (BrE), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004. (US equivalent: Attending Anesthesiologist) Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired. http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk >>>>> Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of >>>>> speaking english which others cant understand, [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Peter. Ok thanks. Brigadier Young was not onlt a great commando leader, his unit was the only one to complete its mission at Dieppe he led men in the first wave on June 6th 1944, HE WROTE SOME VERY ENJOYABLE BOOKS. > > Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of > > speaking english which others cant understand, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > DC I thought he was doing okay as it was. John Kane Kingston ON Canada >>> Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of >>> speaking english which others cant understand, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > John Kane Kingston ON Canada You're mean. SignatureFrank ess Noah wrote on Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:25:46 -0700 (PDT): > Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods > of speaking english which others cant understand, > It'll be useful for me and my Girl Friend to communicate so > that no one who's present there cant understand. I'm afraid that you will have to do quite a bit of work: perhaps learn an obscure foreign language. Even the schoolkids' Pig Latin takes a while to learn and speak quickly. SignatureJames Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not Quoth "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon.net>, and I quote: > Noah wrote on Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:25:46 -0700 (PDT): > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >an obscure foreign language. Even the schoolkids' Pig Latin takes a >while to learn and speak quickly. Hasn't Navajo been used for this purpose? SignatureJames > Quoth "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.net>, and I > quote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Hasn't Navajo been used for this purpose? Quite recently, in my experience. The other youngsters quickly picked up the insulting words, or at least learned to use them as insults. -- Jerry Friedman > > Noah wrote on Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:25:46 -0700 (PDT): > > > >> Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods > >> of speaking english which others cant understand, . . . > Hasn't Navajo been used for this purpose? Yes, by the US Army in WW2. Soldiers have been used to this since at least the invention of voice radio. Other languages used for security purposes by the British armies in WW2 (as unlikely to be understood by an eavesdropping enemy) included Hindustani, Gurkhali and possibly Canadian Indian languages. The problem is familiar to public security agencies nowadays. Canadian counterspies intercepting Sikh terrorist telephone calls 30 years ago recorded hundreds of hours of talk that was never audited for lack of (security- cleared) interpreters who could understand them. SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) Don Phillipson wrote... > Canadian counterspies intercepting Sikh terrorist telephone calls > 30 years ago recorded hundreds of hours of talk that was never > audited for lack of (security-cleared) interpreters who could > understand them. I can't remember ever having seen 'audit' used in that sense, and I can find no definition in OED or M-W Online to fit it. Is it part of the jargon? SignatureNoel > Don Phillipson wrote... > > Canadian counterspies intercepting Sikh terrorist telephone calls [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > can find no definition in OED or M-W Online to fit it. Is it part of > the jargon? Probably. Financial auditors verify the plausibility as well as the accuracy of financial records: intelligence agents have to do much the same for the records they collect. SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) >> Don Phillipson wrote... >> > Canadian counterspies intercepting Sikh terrorist telephone calls [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >accuracy of financial records: intelligence agents have to do >much the same for the records they collect. The "auditing" of recorded telephone calls is closer to the origin of "audit" than it the case for financial auditing. The intelligence agents hear the material whereas financial auditors mainly read stuff. http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/audit audit noun an official inspection of an organizations accounts. verb (audited, auditing) make an audit of. ORIGIN from Latin audire hear (because an audit was originally presented orally). SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >>> Don Phillipson wrote... >>> > Canadian counterspies intercepting Sikh terrorist telephone calls [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > ORIGIN from Latin audire hear (because an audit was originally > presented orally). Intelligence agencies are more likely to "screen" material than to "audit" it. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE On Jul 28, 6:05 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:47:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson" > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > ORIGIN from Latin audire ‘hear’ (because an audit was originally > presented orally). Don's useage seem perfectly reasonably working from audio audire . Also in Canada one can audit a university course. John Kane, Kingston ON Canada Don Phillipson wrote... >> Don Phillipson wrote... >> > Canadian counterspies intercepting Sikh terrorist telephone [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the accuracy of financial records: intelligence agents have to do > much the same for the records they collect. Yes, but the word seems better suited to this usage than to most of the other jobs it is required to do these days. We are so used to seeing extensions of meaning that have no regard to etymology that finding one that gets closer to the original gives a warm feeling. SignatureNoel Ildhund filted: >Don Phillipson wrote... >>> Don Phillipson wrote... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >seeing extensions of meaning that have no regard to etymology that >finding one that gets closer to the original gives a warm feeling. ObEtymology: do mimes have audiences?...r SignatureA pessimist sees the glass as half empty. An optometrist asks whether you see the glass more full like this?...or like this? > Ildhund filted: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > ObEtymology: do mimes have audiences?...r Certainly, I am convinced of that ever since I saw a film of a choir performing Christmas carols in American Sign Language. John Kane, Kingston ON Canada > Don Phillipson wrote... > > Canadian counterspies intercepting Sikh terrorist telephone calls [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > can find no definition in OED or M-W Online to fit it. Is it part of > the jargon? When I was in college you could "audit" a course, which meant to attend the classes but take no tests and get no academic credit. I never did it, but it was a way to get some introductory knowledge of an interesting subject outside one's major. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email >> Don Phillipson wrote... >> > Canadian counterspies intercepting Sikh terrorist telephone calls [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >never did it, but it was a way to get some introductory knowledge of >an interesting subject outside one's major. I audited a University of Maryland course in circuit synthesis a coon's age ago. Luckily for me I didn't have to take the final exam, for it is a wickedly difficult subject, or at least I found it so. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > Can anybody knowl how to speak hidden English or some methods of > speaking english which others cant understand, > It'll be useful for me and my Girl Friend to communicate so that no > one who's present there cant understand. No idea what "hidden English" is, but my mom, sister, and I all can speak fluent Tutahash. SignatureSML |
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