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Marius Hancu - 31 Jul 2009 19:41 GMT

Hello:

"cut him up": crossed with his car in front of him?
"pig stuck by Spurs":?, I'm not getting his, probably injured

The "Spurs," of course, are the "Tottenham Hotspurs" (fans).

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[Big fight going on between Chelsea and Tottenham fans]

Marting Howe's in there, only got let out two weeks ago [from prison,
I guess], did four months for smacking a bloke who cut him up at a set
of traffic lights, and he's bleeding from his leg, pig stuck by Spurs,
and it's slower now, picking our spot, and I'm after a mouthy c*nt
shouting insults and he goes for my head [...]

John King, The Football Factory, p 29
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Marius Hancu

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Jerry Friedman - 31 Jul 2009 19:48 GMT

> Hello:
>
> "cut him up": crossed with his car in front of him?

My question too. That might be "cut him off" in American English.

> "pig stuck by Spurs":?, I'm not getting his, probably injured

Probably "pig-stuck", stuck (stabbed) as if he were a pig. The
speaker doesn't seem to be the type who uses hyphens.

Irwell will be along soon to tell you about pig-sticking in India.

> The "Spurs," of course, are the "Tottenham Hotspurs" (fans).
>
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> John King, The Football Factory, p 29

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 31 Jul 2009 20:09 GMT

>> Hello:
>>
>> "cut him up": crossed with his car in front of him?
>
> My question too. That might be "cut him off" in American English.

Yeah, we did this one a year or so ago. The OED defines it as

To cut in front of (another vehicle or its driver), esp. causing
it to brake or take other evasive action; to pass recklessly or
illegally. _colloq_.

They cite it to 1939.

>> "pig stuck by Spurs":?, I'm not getting his, probably injured
>
> Probably "pig-stuck", stuck (stabbed) as if he were a pig. The
> speaker doesn't seem to be the type who uses hyphens.

They define this sense of "pig-stick" as

In extended use: to stab (a person, etc.) as if butchering a pig;
to wound mortally.

and cite it to 1902. I've never heard it used as a verb, but I do
have "pig sticker" (which they cite in this sense to 1867).

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 31 Jul 2009 20:31 GMT

>>> Hello:
>>>
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>They cite it to 1939.

Examples can be found by Googling for
"cut me up" car site:uk

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Jerry Friedman - 31 Jul 2009 20:51 GMT

> >> Hello:
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> They cite it to 1939.

...

I remember that now. "Just because you teach doesn't mean they'll
learn."

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tony cooper - 31 Jul 2009 19:50 GMT

>Hello:
>
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>John King, The Football Factory, p 29
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Pig stuck = cut with a knife and "bleeding like a stuck pig".
http://grahams-random-ramblings.blogspot.com/2007/08/origin-of-saying-bleeding-l
ike-stuck.html

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Marius Hancu - 31 Jul 2009 19:55 GMT

> >"cut him up": crossed with his car in front of him?
> >"pig stuck by Spurs":?, I'm not getting his, probably injured
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
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> Pig stuck = cut with a knife and "bleeding like a stuck pig". http://grahams-random-ramblings.blogspot.com/2007/08/origin-of-saying...

Thank you both.
Marius Hancu

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