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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2010Waugh: tooth glass
Hello: What's a "tooth glass?" Didn't get anything reasonable by googling. ----- Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, entering, as I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his fire half- dressed, and he started angrily when the heard me and put down a tooth glass. Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754 ---- -- Thanks. Marius Hancu > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks. > Marius Hancu I think a glass provided for you to rinse your mouth with after you've brushed your teeth.  SignatureCheryl >> Hello: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I think a glass provided for you to rinse your mouth with after you've > brushed your teeth. Googling for images of a "tooth mug" gives results. SignatureJames > >> What's a "tooth glass?" > >> Didn't get anything reasonable by googling. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >> Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754 > >> ---- > > I think a glass provided for you to rinse your mouth with after you've > > brushed your teeth. > > Googling for images of a "tooth mug" gives results. Well, yes, but is this exactly the thing? http://tinyurl.com/y8j72mf Thank you both. Marius Hancu >>>> What's a "tooth glass?" Didn't get anything reasonable by >>>> googling. ----- Then I put on my dressing gown and went to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Well, yes, but is this exactly the thing? http://tinyurl.com/y8j72mf Probably not. It could be an ordinary glass that he uses for rinsing his mouth and holding his toothbrush when he isn't using it. SignatureJames > Probably not. It could be an ordinary glass that he uses for rinsing his > mouth and holding his toothbrush when he isn't using it. OK then. Thank you all. Marius Hancu James Hogg wrote, in <hhfmdi$rbg$1@news.eternal-september.org> on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:59:49 +0100: > >>>> What's a "tooth glass?" Didn't get anything reasonable by > >>>> googling. ----- Then I put on my dressing gown and went to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Probably not. It could be an ordinary glass that he uses for rinsing his > mouth and holding his toothbrush when he isn't using it. Much the same as the tumbler that we considered yesterday, SignatureNick Spalding BrE/IrE > James Hogg wrote, in <hhfmdi$rbg$1@news.eternal-september.org> > on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:59:49 +0100: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Much the same as the tumbler that we considered yesterday, But with a flat base? SignatureJames James wrote on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:23:32 +0100: >> James Hogg wrote, in >> <hhfmdi$rbg$1@news.eternal-september.org> on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Much the same as the tumbler that we considered yesterday, > But with a flat base? Given the time at which Waugh wrote, might it not be a glass in which to soak dentures overnight? I still remember from childhood, the dentures of elders soaking in what I would call a "water glass" on a bedside table. Again, it might not just be elders since a full set of dentures was not an uncommon 21st. birthday present at certain levels of society in England. SignatureJames Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not >Given the time at which Waugh wrote, might it not be a glass in which to >soak dentures overnight? I still remember from childhood, the dentures >of elders soaking in what I would call a "water glass" on a bedside >table. Again, it might not just be elders since a full set of dentures >was not an uncommon 21st. birthday present at certain levels of society >in England. But surely not for gilded youth like Sebastian. SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ >>>>> What's a "tooth glass?" Didn't get anything reasonable by googling. >>>>> ----- Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Probably not. It could be an ordinary glass that he uses for rinsing his > mouth and holding his toothbrush when he isn't using it. It would even have enough space to hold a fine tooth comb. SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. >>>>>> What's a "tooth glass?" Didn't get anything reasonable by googling. >>>>>> ----- Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >It would even have enough space to hold a fine tooth comb. A million of them, even. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > > >> ----- > > >> Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, entering, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > >> Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754 > > > I think a glass provided for you to rinse your mouth with after you've > > > brushed your teeth. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Well, yes, but is this exactly the thing? > http://tinyurl.com/y8j72mf The tacit but main points are: 1. By this stage in the story, Sebastian has begun to drink alone, in his bedroom at home as well as in his Oxford college suite. 2. At Oxford, college residents have their own cutlery, crockery and glassware in case they want to eat in their own rooms, so Sebastian never needs to look for a glass. But at Brideshead glasses are normally found only downstairs. However, up-to-date houses of the period usually had a wash-basin in every bedroom (which reduces demands on the bathrooms and lavatories shared by the family and guests.) In a luxurious house, these wash-basins would be lavishly supplied with soap, hair oil, nailbrush, face flannel and towels -- and a tooth glass. Upstairs, when Sebastian wanted a glass (for the bottle he had earlier hidden in the wardrobe) the tooth glass was the only one conveniently available. SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) the only glass Sebastian could > > > >> Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, > entering, > > > >> as I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his fire half- > > > >> dressed, and he started angrily when the heard me and put down a > tooth > > > >> glass. > The tacit but main points are: > 1. By this stage in the story, Sebastian has begun to > drink alone, in his bedroom at home as well as in his > Oxford college suite. This I had realized. > 2. At Oxford, college residents have their own cutlery, > crockery and glassware in case they want to eat in [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > had earlier hidden in the wardrobe) the tooth glass > was the only one conveniently available. Ah, OK now. Thank you. Marius Hancu > The tacit but main points are: > 1. By this stage in the story, Sebastian has begun to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > had earlier hidden in the wardrobe) the tooth glass > was the only one conveniently available. And, of course, it is a measure of how low he has sunk. Regards Jonathan >Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754 >---- A "tooth glass" is a glass of a particular general shape and size. The original meanings are, per OED: (a) (see quot. 1858); (b) a glass used to hold false teeth; 1858 P. L. SIMMONDS Dict. Trade Products 384/2 *Tooth-glass, a toilet water-glass for washing the mouth. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote... >>What's a "tooth glass?" >>Didn't get anything reasonable by googling. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > A "tooth glass" is a glass of a particular general shape and size. Would that be a special ordinary shape, or a unique normal one? The original meanings are, per OED: > (a) (see quot. 1858); > (b) a glass used to hold false teeth; > > 1858 P. L. SIMMONDS Dict. Trade Products 384/2 *Tooth-glass, a toilet > water-glass for washing the mouth. I always thought water-glass was a preservative for eggs, but prompted by your post I learn that it can also be used to mend car exhausts and head gaskets, to seal concrete and flesh wounds and to treat sewage. The article I read - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_glass - also reminded me of my sister's chemical garden, which had me fascinated in the 1950s. It was probably about this time that I heard the story of the Scotsman who turned up at work with his head bandaged. He explained to his solicitous coworkers that he had been putting a little toilet water behind his ears when the seat fell on his head. Amazing what tortuous routes one's memory negotiates and what nuggets of new information it acquires when tickled by a little hyphen. SignatureNoel >> A "tooth glass" is a glass of a particular general shape and size. > >Would that be a special ordinary shape, or a unique normal one? Yes. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754 > ---- I still use the term for the glasses you get in hotels. I may even say "it's the sort of place that gives you plastic tooth glasses". Their main use, as with Sebastian, is for drinking something you've smuggled in. SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk [...] > I still use the term for the glasses you get in hotels. I may even > say "it's the sort of place that gives you plastic tooth glasses". As is my house: I have a horror of movable glass in bathrooms and beside bedroom basins. I don't think I've ever witnessed any particularly gory incident, but a vivid imagination has always been enough to keep me in line. SignatureMike. >[...] >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >incident, but a vivid imagination has always been enough to keep me in >line. The bathroom scene in Psycho was gory enough for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VP5jEAP3K4 SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > [...] >> >> I still use the term for the glasses you get in hotels. I may even >> say "it's the sort of place that gives you plastic tooth glasses". > As is my house: I have a horror of movable glass in bathrooms and beside > bedroom basins. I don't think I've ever witnessed any particularly gory > incident, but a vivid imagination has always been enough to keep me in > line. When I was a small child, I had a gory encounter with a soft drink bottle. I still have scars that people can observe and some of them ask about my suicidal period. But that occurred outside, on the pavement on a sunny day. My main horror about bathroom glass is that no matter how much you sweep there is always a tiny splinter left which seldom produces much gore. SignatureLars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> Warbama's Afghaninam day: 32 781.1 hours since Warbama declared Viet Nam II. Warbama: An LBJ for the Twenty-First century. No hope. No change. |
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