English words ending in ...hion
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Alasdair - 05 Jan 2010 15:00 GMT I read in another group that there are only three English words which end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does anyone in this group know of any others?
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the Omrud - 05 Jan 2010 15:07 GMT > I read in another group that there are only three English words which > end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does anyone > in this group know of any others? This is an easy way to check:
http://www.onelook.com/?w=*hion&scwo=1&sswo=0
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 05 Jan 2010 15:16 GMT >> I read in another group that there are only three English words which >> end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does anyone [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >http://www.onelook.com/?w=*hion&scwo=1&sswo=0 Apart from the three mentioned, most of those are a mystery to me. However, I recognise parathion as an insecticide.
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Cheryl - 05 Jan 2010 15:45 GMT >>> I read in another group that there are only three English words which >>> end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does anyone [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Apart from the three mentioned, most of those are a mystery to me. > However, I recognise parathion as an insecticide. Malathion is, too. I didn't recognize parathion, but I knew malathion.
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 05 Jan 2010 15:56 GMT >>>> I read in another group that there are only three English words which >>>> end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does anyone [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Malathion is, too. I didn't recognize parathion, but I knew malathion. I missed malathion.
Crossthread alert:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphion
The scaphe (or skaphe, also scaphium or scaphion) was a sundial said to have been invented by Aristarchus (3rd century BC). It consisted of a hemispherical bowl which had a vertical gnomon placed inside it, with the top of the gnomon level with the edge of the bowl. Twelve gradations inscribed perpendicular to the hemisphere indicated the hour of the day. Using this measuring instrument Eratosthenes of Cyrene (ca. 220 BC) measured the length of Earth's meridian.
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Alasdair - 05 Jan 2010 15:58 GMT >Malathion is, too. I didn't recognize parathion, but I knew malathion. Please, what does malathion mean?
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Cheryl - 05 Jan 2010 16:09 GMT >> Malathion is, too. I didn't recognize parathion, but I knew malathion. > > Please, what does malathion mean? > > -- > Alasdair. It's a common insecticide, for use in a garden or farm, not indoors. Nowadays, it has all kinds of dire warnings on the label and some cities don't allow any insecticides at all, but it's still probably the active ingredient found in all the most common insecticide products in any garden centre in my area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathion
I notice they say "There is currently no reliable information on adverse health effects of chronic exposure to malathion." You wouldn't know that from the information on the bottle labels. That makes it sound like you need armour before diluting and spraying the stuff.
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John Varela - 05 Jan 2010 19:29 GMT > >> Malathion is, too. I didn't recognize parathion, but I knew malathion. > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > from the information on the bottle labels. That makes it sound like you > need armour before diluting and spraying the stuff. It's good for use against sucking insects, which includes mosquitoes in the grass. In the late 60s and early 70s we lived across the street from a golf couse in New Jersey and they would go around fogging the whole golf course with malathion.
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Robert Bannister - 06 Jan 2010 01:37 GMT >>> Malathion is, too. I didn't recognize parathion, but I knew malathion. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > from the information on the bottle labels. That makes it sound like you > need armour before diluting and spraying the stuff. When I worked at the nursery, Malthion was one of the few nasties we occasionally wore masks for. When I think of the casual way we used to light nicotine flares (one man passed out and nearly died while I was there), that means we took it seriously.
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Django Cat - 06 Jan 2010 15:19 GMT > > > Malathion is, too. I didn't recognize parathion, but I knew > > > malathion. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the active ingredient found in all the most common insecticide > products in any garden centre in my area. Aged about 17 I swallowed a generous mouthful of Malathion at a party, noticing an unattended bottle of what looked like spirits on a shelf in the kitchen. The host's parents ran me home in a panic (they really shouldn't have left that stuff lying about) and my parents phoned the hospital, but so far it doesn't seem to have done me any
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Wood Avens - 06 Jan 2010 15:35 GMT >Aged about 17 I swallowed a generous mouthful of Malathion at a party, >noticing an unattended bottle of what looked like spirits on a shelf in >the kitchen. The host's parents ran me home in a panic (they really >shouldn't have left that stuff lying about) and my parents phoned the >hospital, but so far it doesn't seem to have done me any Viv? Viv?? Hallo, hallo? Speak to me! Hang in there,son, everything's going to be all right, the ambulance is on its way ... Just tell us, quick, what music do you want?
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James Hogg - 06 Jan 2010 15:40 GMT >> Aged about 17 I swallowed a generous mouthful of Malathion at a >> party, noticing an unattended bottle of what looked like spirits on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > everything's going to be all right, the ambulance is on its way ... > Just tell us, quick, what music do you want? He was well enough to click on the send button (but not to type Argghhh).
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 06 Jan 2010 16:02 GMT >>> Aged about 17 I swallowed a generous mouthful of Malathion at a >>> party, noticing an unattended bottle of what looked like spirits on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >He was well enough to click on the send button (but not to type Argghhh). "Sending" was a fortuitous result of his slumping on the keyboard and/or mouse.
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IAP - 07 Jan 2010 10:19 GMT > > Please, what does malathion mean? > > It's a common insecticide, for use in a garden or farm, not indoors. Yes, but what does the word _mean_, if anything? If we are looking for _words_ that end in -hion, can we include names? Most, if not all dictionary definitions of the word "word" appear to require a word to mean something. Names can became words, of course, but then they get a broader meaning apart from the original entity they referred to. But are names themselves words? To me the evidence seems to suggest that they are not, in which case pestisides, names of medication, and Greek gods ought to be excluded.
James Hogg - 07 Jan 2010 10:29 GMT >>> Please, what does malathion mean? >> It's a common insecticide, for use in a garden or farm, not >> indoors. > Yes, but what does the word _mean_, if anything? The OED gives it a meaning: "An organophosphorus compound considered to have relatively low toxicity to mammals, used as an insecticide and parasiticide".
> If we are looking for _words_ that end in -hion, can we include > names? Most, if not all dictionary definitions of the word "word" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > me the evidence seems to suggest that they are not, in which case > pestisides, names of medication, and Greek gods ought to be excluded. All names are words, but the distinction between a name and a common noun is often blurred.
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Leslie Danks - 07 Jan 2010 11:13 GMT >>>> Please, what does malathion mean? >>> It's a common insecticide, for use in a garden or farm, not [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > All names are words, but the distinction between a name and a common > noun is often blurred. Indeed. The systematic (IUPAC) designation of the substance is "2-(dimethoxyphosphinothioylthio) butanedioic acid diethyl ester". The simplified designation "malathion" is used to make life easier for those who have to speak it's name. Other names were/are also used in other countries (carbofos, maldison, mercaptothion) [1].
The same approach is used for pharmaceuticals, which will normally have a systematic name, a so-called INN (International Nonproprietary Name), and one or more proprietary names under which the pharmaceutical is sold (suitably formulated). INNs are not capitalised; proprietary names (obviously) are. This would appear to justify regarding an INN as a "word" rather than a "name" and, by analogy, malathion also.
[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathion>
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IAP - 07 Jan 2010 11:42 GMT > > Yes, but what does the word _mean_, if anything? > > The OED gives it a meaning: "An organophosphorus compound considered to > have relatively low toxicity to mammals, used as an insecticide and > parasiticide". Dictionaries provide several descriptions for proper nouns also, for instance (m-w.com):
Amphion: a musician of Greek mythology who builds the walls of Thebes by charming the stones into place with his lyre
You can say that Amphion is or was what Merriam-Webster tells us, but can you say that that's what the word Amphion means? Dictionary definitions of the word "word" require it to mean something, which in many cases appears to be excluding proper nouns. Maybe there are better definitions of "word" somewhere, I don't know. The principal difference is, of course, that anyone can come up with any proper noun whatsoever, whereas "words", in the sense given by dictionaries, have been established over a certain period of time within a group of people.
> All names are words, but the distinction between a name and a common noun > is often blurred. Which box would you put malathion into? It could of course be an umbrella for several similar products, which would perhaps bring it closer to common nouns, but even the OED definition suggests a single, fixed compound, in which case it wouldn't be a common noun, IMO.
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 07 Jan 2010 11:25 GMT >> > Please, what does malathion mean? >> >> It's a common insecticide, for use in a garden or farm, not indoors. >Yes, but what does the word _mean_, if anything? Malathion is a short name for <deep breath> O,O-dimethyl dithiophosphate of diethyl mercaptosuccinate.
The OED etymology for Malathion is:
[Altered form of malathon, the name originally proposed for the substance < mal- (in diethyl maleate) and -th- (in dimethyl dithiophosphoric acid), from both of which it is manufactured, the connective -a- and terminal -on probably being after MARATHON n. After difficulty was encountered in the trademarking of malathon (see quot. 1953/2) a variant with -i- (compare THIO- comb. form, PARATHION n.) replaced it, and this was later registered in the United States both as a generic (i.e. non-proprietary) name and as a trade mark of the American Cyanamid Co.]
1953 Substitution of Malathion for Malathon as Coined (Generic) Name for Insecticidal Chemical O,O-Dimethyl Dithiophosphate of Diethyl Mercaptosuccinate (Interdept. Comm. Pest Control, Bureau Entomol. & Plant Quarantine, U.S. Dept. Agric.), On January 30, 1952 the Interdepartmental Committee on Pest Control approved the name ‘malathon’ as coined name for O,O-dimethyl dithiophosphate of diethyl mercaptosuccinate. Because of difficulty encountered in the trade-marking of the name selected at first the commercial sponsor, American Cyanamid Co., decided to change the name to ‘malathion’. The American Chemical Society and the American Medical Association are agreeable to the change. Malathion has been registered with the Trade-Mark Division and released for general use. On March 27, 1953, the Interdepartmental Committee on Pest Control approved the name ‘malathion’ as a coined (generic) name for the chemical in question.
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Robert Bannister - 06 Jan 2010 01:34 GMT >>>> I read in another group that there are only three English words which >>>> end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does anyone [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Malathion is, too. I didn't recognize parathion, but I knew malathion. Apocythion? Crotaphion? Endognathion? Fenitrothion? Someone is either having a lend of us or making them up to fool the lexographer. Even my spelling checker blows wind in their direction.
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Mike Lyle - 06 Jan 2010 15:08 GMT >>>>> I read in another group that there are only three English words >>>>> which end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > having a lend of us or making them up to fool the lexographer. Even my > spelling checker blows wind in their direction. I know fenitrothion as well as malathion and parathion: they have to keep making up these names for pharmaceuticals, agrichemicals, and such-like. Malathion is less harmful to furry creatures like us than parathion, and at one stage was one of the insecticides used for lice in the UK --I don't know if they still do it, but they used to rotate the available poisons to reduce the risk of acquired resisitance.
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Stan Brown - 06 Jan 2010 22:24 GMT Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:07:59 GMT from the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gEXPUNGEmail.com>:
> > I read in another group that there are only three English words which > > end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does anyone [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.onelook.com/?w=*hion&scwo=1&sswo=0 Isn't "nuncheon" spelled that way, rather than -ion? I know it's spelled with -eon in /The Lord of the Rings/.
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Don Phillipson - 05 Jan 2010 18:12 GMT > I read in another group that there are only three English words which > end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does anyone > in this group know of any others? We can start with falchion, and then go on to reconsider how much faith to put in what we read on the Internet.
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Mike Lyle - 05 Jan 2010 20:31 GMT >> I read in another group that there are only three English words which >> end in ...hion. They are fashion, cushion and stanchion. Does >> anyone in this group know of any others? > > We can start with falchion, and then go on to reconsider how > much faith to put in what we read on the Internet. A wildcard search in OED brought it, I think, up to twenty-three, excluding compounds. But I only recognized about four of the additional ones. Alasdair, start by hitting them with: clunchion cutchion hushion melanthion, and opisthion.
If that doesn't subdue them, warn that malathion and parathion are not to be taken, but should knock out any nits they care to pick.
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