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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2010east of north
east of north Is this the same as "north east"? I think we rarely see such a way of expression as EAST OF NORTH in english writings these days, while I have come across one in a book written old times. And I don't find this way of phrase in dictionaries even for an example sentence as I searched. On 07 Jan 2010, Masa wrote > east of north > > Is this the same as "north east"? The usual compass points are N, NNE, NE, ENE, E, and so on. I'd take "east of north" to mean NNE rather than NE.  SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed > > east of north > > > Is this the same as "north east"? > > The usual compass points are N, NNE, NE, ENE, E, and so on. I'd take > "east of north" to mean NNE rather than NE. So, east well to the north >>> east of north >>> Is this the same as "north east"? >> The usual compass points are N, NNE, NE, ENE, E, and so on. I'd take >> "east of north" to mean NNE rather than NE. > > So, east well to the north More probably just a few degrees to the east of north, no further east than NNE. SignatureJames >>>> east of north >>>> Is this the same as "north east"? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > More probably just a few degrees to the east of north, no further east > than NNE. I'm not so sure. A total of 32 compass points have names [1]. The one directly east of North (half-way between North and North North East) is called North by East. "East of North" might mean some direction between North and North by East (i.e. between North and the next recognised point of the compass), or it might mean some direction between North and East (i.e. between North and the next point of the compass of equal status). [1] <http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/angles.htm> SignatureLes (BrE) >>>>> east of north >>>>> Is this the same as "north east"? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > between North and East (i.e. between North and the next point of the > compass of equal status). Or may be a misprint or misunderstanding for East by North. > [1] <http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/angles.htm> SignatureJohn Dean Oxford John wrote on Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:58:55 -0000: >>>>>> east of north >>>>>> Is this the same as "north east"? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> East (i.e. between North and the next point of the compass of >> equal status). > Or may be a misprint or misunderstanding for East by North. >> [1] <http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/angles.htm> I suspect you could be right on "East by North" being a misprint. The 32 named compass points are surely sufficient for the average boater and anyone needing greater precision would probably use degrees; "Steer red 160" or something like that. SignatureJames Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not >>>> east of north >>>> Is this the same as "north east"? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >More probably just a few degrees to the east of north, no further east >than NNE. I agree. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE >>> east of north >>> Is this the same as "north east"? >> The usual compass points are N, NNE, NE, ENE, E, and so on. I'd take >> "east of north" to mean NNE rather than NE. > > So, east well to the north More: "North - right hand down a bit". SignatureRob Bannister > east of north > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > english writings > these days, while I have come across one in a book written old times. North-east means 45 degrees east of north. East of north on its own would mean some unspecifed angle east of north. SignatureRegards John for mail: my initials plus a u e at tpg dot com dot au > North-east means 45 degrees east of north. East of north on its own > would mean some unspecifed angle east of north. Yes, correct (if the OP transcribed correctly "east of north.") Wiki lists the mariners' 32 named points of the compass at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_the_compass viz. north north by east north northeast northeast by north etc. but "east of north" is undefined thus imprecise. SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) > east of north > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > And I don't find this way of phrase in dictionaries even for an > example sentence as I searched. It means somewhere eastwards of North. But if it was any further eastward than "North-East", it would be better described as "north of east". So it's just a loose descriptive phrase for a direction between North and North-East. -- >> east of north >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > of east". So it's just a loose descriptive phrase for a direction > between North and North-East. Unless the context makes it more specific, e.g., "three degrees east of north". What was the context? SignatureEvan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Marge: You liked Rashomon. 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |Homer: That's not how *I* remember Palo Alto, CA 94304 | it. kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ >>> east of north >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> of east". So it's just a loose descriptive phrase for a direction >> between North and North-East. No it's not. It's s loose description for somewhere - anywhere - between North and East. > east of north > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > And I don't find this way of phrase in dictionaries even for an > example sentence as I searched. North east is north of east, which is not east of north. > > east of north > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > North east is north of east, which is not east of north. I bet it is. Take a look. -- franzi On Jan 7, 8:57 pm, "Fred" <r...@parachute.net.nz> wrote: > "Masa" <aut...@infoseek.jp> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > North east is north of east, which is not east of north. I bet it is. Take a look. Oops! You're right of course. I'll crawl back under my rock. >> east of north >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > North east is north of east, which is not east of north. But beware "East of Java". SignatureRob Bannister Robert Bannister filted: >> North east is north of east, which is not east of north. > >But beware "East of Java". And the Jubjub bird....r SignatureA pessimist sees the glass as half empty. An optometrist asks whether you see the glass more full like this?...or like this? > Robert Bannister filted: >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > And the Jubjub bird....r And all things frumious. Bad for the cholesterol, if nothing else. SignatureRoland Hutchinson He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba," ... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy. --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ ) |
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