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Adrian Bailey - 08 Jan 2010 12:19 GMT
"I had a funny feelin that my door was going to come off this mornin," he
wrote in one smug post guaranteed to torque law enforcement officials
everywhere.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/06/AR2010010604564.html

Not heard/seen this use of "torque" before. Is it readily understood in the
US?

Adrian
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 08 Jan 2010 12:38 GMT
>"I had a funny feelin that my door was going to come off this mornin," he
>wrote in one smug post guaranteed to torque law enforcement officials
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Not heard/seen this use of "torque" before. Is it readily understood in the
>US?

It seems to me to be an up-market version of the BrE "wind up":
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/windup?view=uk

   noun 1 Brit. informal an attempt to tease or irritate someone.

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Pat Durkin - 08 Jan 2010 14:49 GMT
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:19:11 -0000, "Adrian Bailey"
> <dadge@hotmail.com>
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>
>    noun 1 Brit. informal an attempt to tease or irritate someone.

I have heard "That really torques my a.s".  It seems just a mite
stronger than simple irritation, however.  (Let me see: "That really
twists my panties."  "That is a real wedgie."  Yeah. )

I think that we use "wind up" (without the hyphen) more in the sense
of playing a long, involved joke on someone.  But of course, "winding"
refers to tightening a screw or cranking up the well-rope, thus
putting pressure on someone or storing energy for a big explosion.  (I
mean, not the same as putting the wind up (from the sailing term).
tony cooper - 08 Jan 2010 14:52 GMT
>"I had a funny feelin that my door was going to come off this mornin," he
>wrote in one smug post guaranteed to torque law enforcement officials
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Not heard/seen this use of "torque" before. Is it readily understood in the
>US?

It's difficult to state what is understood in the US because some do
and some don't.  I've seen and heard "torqued off" used to mean
"angry" and would have no problem picking up the meaning of any other
use of "torque" in similar context.  Whether or not it's readily
understood down at the bingo hall is quite another thing.

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Jerry Friedman - 08 Jan 2010 15:56 GMT
> >"I had a funny feelin that my door was going to come off this mornin," he
> >wrote in one smug post guaranteed to torque law enforcement officials
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> "angry" and would have no problem picking up the meaning of any other
> use of "torque" in similar context.

I agree with all that, and I've also heard plain "torqued".

> Whether or not it's readily
> understood down at the bingo hall is quite another thing.

But I associate it more with down at the bingo hall than with up at
the baccarat tables (or whatever the hoity-toity equivalent of bingo
halls is).

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Jerry Friedman
tony cooper - 08 Jan 2010 17:08 GMT
>> >"I had a funny feelin that my door was going to come off this mornin," he
>> >wrote in one smug post guaranteed to torque law enforcement officials
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>the baccarat tables (or whatever the hoity-toity equivalent of bingo
>halls is).

I was thinking age, not income.  

Ever been to a bingo hall?  There's a German-American club near us
that serves dinner, followed by bingo, on Friday nights.  We'd heard
the spätzle was good, and that they served a mean rolladen.  It's not
members-only, so we gave it a try. (The reports were accurate)

After dinner the bingo began.  The players were mostly older women who
obviously played there every week.  While the seating was "open", it
was clear that some women had their favorite seats and some
chest-bumping (formidable* chests, too!) went on when non-regulars
tried to sit where the regulars wanted to sit.

I sat in amazement (as a spectator, not a player) watching the ladies
pull all sorts of good luck tchotchkes out of their purses and setting
them out on the table.  Some women had a row of wild-haired trolls,
china dogs and other animals, and dolls arrayed in front of them.  

My wife and I would have played, but the pace was too fast for us.
Anyone who, as we would, needed to search their card for any length of
time for B4 was urged to speed it up.  I might be able to manage one
card, but some women were playing as many as eight cards at once.  I
swear they memorized all eight cards and could instantly know if a
call matched a space.  The "cards" were paper and most of the players
used a felt-tipped marker to indicate a space called.    

The caller must have apprenticed as a cookware and knife set
demonstrater/pitch-man at dime stores.  (Remember them?)  He had a
line of patter that was just short of the stand-up circuit and knew
most of the ladies' names.  Complicated games, like "around the
corner", provided variety.  

Most of the husbands were non-players and sat at the back tables,
smoked**, and talked among themselves.  A lot of biographical
baseball-type caps embroidered with the name of ships, military units,
unions, and sports teams.  A laid-back group where Boston Red Sox caps
sat with Yankees caps.  

Except for the food, there was nothing particularly German-American
about the crowd or the place.  It seemed to be a local crowd (far more
people inside than cars parked in the parking lot) rather than an
nationalistic/ethnic crowd.  The place is tucked in a mostly
working-class residential neighborhood

*  Have we done "formidable"?  Some say "form-id-able" and some say
"for-mid-able" (with stress on the "mid")

**This was a few years ago before places that served food had to ban
smoking.
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R H Draney - 08 Jan 2010 17:59 GMT
tony cooper filted:

>I sat in amazement (as a spectator, not a player) watching the ladies
>pull all sorts of good luck tchotchkes out of their purses and setting
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>unions, and sports teams.  A laid-back group where Boston Red Sox caps
>sat with Yankees caps.  

Since Arizona is home to fourteen Native American tribes, most of which support
themselves by running casinos, I've had a chance to see the bingo phenomenon
up-close...you briefly mention the smoking at the back tables; in my experience,
*everybody* in the bingo room smokes, including those on supplemental oxygen....

People handling fissionable materials should only be so grim and focused as a
400-pound woman with a bingo dabber in each fist....r

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Pat Durkin - 08 Jan 2010 20:35 GMT
> tony cooper filted:
>>
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> focused as a
> 400-pound woman with a bingo dabber in each fist....r

Hey, I've gone to Ho-Chunk for half-price bingo ($5) and have had the
pleasure of sitting close to one of the tribal elders.  She is a nice
lady, so now I know who those people are who get favored parking at
the casino.  It is a fair way to spend 3 or 4 hours on the odd
Saturday evening. (The $5 players don't get the machines, but do get
papers with 6 "boards" on each...10 sheets per night, plus some door
prizes).

In winter or when the gasoline prices get high, it isn't worth it to
me to do the 100-mile round trip.  But I play nickel bingo or free
bingo once a month at a couple of senior citizen venues.  You have to
be careful whose "place" you might be usurping, of course.  And don't
worry.  They aren't all little old women.  But you might try it and
see if you get lucky.
Robin Bignall - 08 Jan 2010 23:04 GMT
>> tony cooper filted:
>>>
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>worry.  They aren't all little old women.  But you might try it and
>see if you get lucky.

Cripes!  The last time I played Bingo was before I reached my teens,
at a local fair.  In those days it was called either Lotto or
Housey-housey, and the person with a completed card shouted "House".
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Nick - 11 Jan 2010 19:21 GMT
> Cripes!  The last time I played Bingo was before I reached my teens,
> at a local fair.  In those days it was called either Lotto or
> Housey-housey, and the person with a completed card shouted "House".

There's bingo every Friday in aid of cancer research at the WI hall up
the road from me.
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Jerry Friedman - 08 Jan 2010 22:33 GMT
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 07:56:00 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
>
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>
> I was thinking age, not income.  

Ah.  Now that you mention it, I can see it might be used mostly by
people under 40 or 50 or something.

> Ever been to a bingo hall?

No, and you're not tempting me.

...
> The caller must have apprenticed as a cookware and knife set
> demonstrater/pitch-man at dime stores.

Maybe before my time.

>  A laid-back group where Boston Red Sox caps
> sat with Yankees caps.  

Heavens!
...

> *  Have we done "formidable"?  Some say "form-id-able" and some say
> "for-mid-able" (with stress on the "mid")

FORmidable, for me.

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tony cooper - 08 Jan 2010 22:48 GMT
>> The caller must have apprenticed as a cookware and knife set
>> demonstrater/pitch-man at dime stores.
>
>Maybe before my time.

I'm sure you've television advertisements that offer a something like
a Slice-A-Roonie at $29.95 and then there's the "Order now, and we'll
include a free Peel-A-Roonie." added offer.  "But, wait..." and he
goes on to offer more Roonies for only shipping and handling.  The
late Billy Mays was King in this.  (Billy started out selling a
portable washing machine to passers-by on the Atlantic City
Boardwalk.)

The dime store demonstrator/pitch-men did the same thing, but
interspersed the pitch with jokes and interaction with the people
standing around his perch.  He was usually in a portable booth and
standing on a raised platform.  Wise buyers never purchased anything
early-on because they knew the guy would keep adding freebies with
purchase.

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R H Draney - 09 Jan 2010 04:24 GMT
tony cooper filted:

>I'm sure you've television advertisements that offer a something like
>a Slice-A-Roonie at $29.95 and then there's the "Order now, and we'll
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>portable washing machine to passers-by on the Atlantic City
>Boardwalk.)

Billy Mays was a johnny-come-lately (and don't even get me started on that
Sham-Wow guy)...the King, as far as I'm concerned, still has to be Ron
Popeil....r

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tony cooper - 09 Jan 2010 05:08 GMT
>tony cooper filted:
>>
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>Sham-Wow guy)...the King, as far as I'm concerned, still has to be Ron
>Popeil....r

True.  I forget about Popiel.  People not familar with this subject
will enjoy reading the Wiki article on Ron:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Popeil

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Jerry Friedman - 12 Jan 2010 03:50 GMT
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:33:32 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> early-on because they knew the guy would keep adding freebies with
> purchase.

Thanks, that gives me an idea.

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tsuidf - 08 Jan 2010 23:44 GMT
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 07:56:00 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
>
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> *  Have we done "formidable"?  Some say "form-id-able" and some say
> "for-mid-able" (with stress on the "mid")

I'm always confused about this, I probably alternate pronunciations
out of sheer desperation.

As for your description of the evening, it brought back wonderful
memories of the very oddly named Blob's Park outside Washington, DC,
where I once danced with a group calling itself 'Bayerisch und
Steierisch'.  A very VERY long time ago... but the dirndl only left
the wardrobe relatively recently, when I realised there was no
possible way it was ever going to get worn by me again!

Have some spaetzle for me, yum!

cheers,
S
Richard Bollard - 12 Jan 2010 00:38 GMT
...

>Ever been to a bingo hall?  There's a German-American club near us
>that serves dinner, followed by bingo, on Friday nights.  We'd heard
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>most of the ladies' names.  Complicated games, like "around the
>corner", provided variety.  

...

Did the caller's banter include traditional* nicknames for each number
and occasional responses from the audience?

"Legs 11" (wolf whistle from the audience), "two fat ladies 88", "two
little ducks 22" ("quack quack" from the audience), "unlucky for some
13" etc.

* Traditional in England and also used here.
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Pat Durkin - 12 Jan 2010 03:13 GMT
> ...
>>
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> some
> 13" etc.

I would think some patter, as with dealers in card games (8, skate and
donate, for example, or when the dealer sees a pair of tens (or 3 or
talks about 4) it's 20 (30, 40) miles of railroad track.  Stuff like
that.  But, no-o-o.  It's the players who can't resist , at "I 22",
saying "toot toot".  That's as predictable and unlively as the game
gets.  Oh, a lot of "louder", "not so fast", "what?"   All loving
kindness goes out the door when bingo's afoot, no matter the venue.
Old people don't hear so well, and the callers don't seem to
understand that noises in the hall distract the players.

> * Traditional in England and also used here.
tony cooper - 12 Jan 2010 03:22 GMT
>...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>little ducks 22" ("quack quack" from the audience), "unlucky for some
>13" etc.

I don't remember that, but he did have nicknames for the games.
"Missionary" was the regular bingo card winning combination.
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R H Draney - 12 Jan 2010 06:25 GMT
Richard Bollard filted:

>Did the caller's banter include traditional* nicknames for each number
>and occasional responses from the audience?
>
>"Legs 11" (wolf whistle from the audience), "two fat ladies 88", "two
>little ducks 22" ("quack quack" from the audience), "unlucky for some
>13" etc.

No fat ladies here...bingo cards only go up to 75....r

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Pablo - 08 Jan 2010 18:12 GMT
El Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:19:11 +0000, Adrian Bailey escribió:

> "I had a funny feelin that my door was going to come off this mornin,"
> he wrote in one smug post guaranteed to torque law enforcement officials
> everywhere.

To me (BrE), "to torque something (up)" is to tighten a nut or bolt with
a torque wrench.

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John O'Flaherty - 08 Jan 2010 22:30 GMT
>El Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:19:11 +0000, Adrian Bailey escribió:
>
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>To me (BrE), "to torque something (up)" is to tighten a nut or bolt with
>a torque wrench.

To me, that's "torquing it down".

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