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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2010April weather
In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? Incidentally, all we have at the moment is snow. Cheers, Ho > In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no > matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? ... Not that I've ever heard. However, people everywhere I've lived have told me, "Around here we have a saying--if you don't like the weather, wait five minutes." -- Jerry Friedman >> In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") >> no matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > told me, "Around here we have a saying--if you don't like the > weather, wait five minutes." I've heard that in Iceland and Ireland. The OED has this sense: "2. fig., with allusion to April as a month in spring (in the northern hemisphere), or to its changeable weather." And there's an interesting quotation: "1754 M. GREEN Spleen 8 A coquet's April-weather face" There's an English proverb, "April weather, rain and sunshine both together", but I don't think people would talk of "April weather" if it was like that in, say, June. I suppose anyone could say, "That's real April weather", but it's not a set expression.  SignatureJames >> In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no >> matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >told me, "Around here we have a saying--if you don't like the weather, >wait five minutes." Its a bit tiresome, but not half as moronic, IMO, as "Is it hot enough for you?" SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE Chuck Riggs filted: >>> In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no >>> matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Its a bit tiresome, but not half as moronic, IMO, as "Is it hot enough >for you?" Stereotypes to the contrary, around here it's only tourists who say "it's a dry heat"....r SignatureA pessimist sees the glass as half empty. An optometrist asks whether you see the glass more full like this?...or like this? El Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:06:38 -0800, R H Draney escribió: > Stereotypes to the contrary, around here it's only tourists who say > "it's a dry heat"....r I'm forever having to explain to the dagos why 25C in England feels the same as 40C here in Southern Spain. Some of them know, as they have been on hols to the Canaries. SignaturePablo > El Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:06:38 -0800, R H Draney escribió: >> Stereotypes to the contrary, around here it's only tourists who say [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > same as 40C here in Southern Spain. Some of them know, as they have been > on hols to the Canaries. 30° C in Sydney can feel like that too. SignatureRob Bannister >> El Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:06:38 -0800, R H Draney escribió: >>> Stereotypes to the contrary, around here it's only tourists who say [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >30° C in Sydney can feel like that too. "Dago" spouting Pablo is Shirley a troll. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE El Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:07:13 +0000, Chuck Riggs escribió: >>> El Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:06:38 -0800, R H Draney escribió: >>>> Stereotypes to the contrary, around here it's only tourists who say [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > "Dago" spouting Pablo is Shirley a troll. ¿Por qué? Is it offensive? What about the children! Am I to be offended next time I'm referred to as a "guiri" by a dago? And when did "typing" become "spouting"? SignaturePablo > In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") > no matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? > Incidentally, all we have at the moment is snow. The month is associated with rain. "April showers bring May flowers." The month of March is associated with a single change, starting wintry and ending springlike ("March comes in like a lion and goes out like a lamb") or sometimes the reverse, if the expression is taken as condition-and-result. >> In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") >> no matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > or sometimes the reverse, if the expression is taken as > condition-and-result. The full rhyme is: "March winds and April showers Bring forth May flowers." The nearest equivalent to "Aprilwetter" in English weather lore is "March manyweathers" ... not heard much these days, and only applicable to March. Philip Eden >>> In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") >>> no matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > is "March manyweathers" ... not heard much these days, and > only applicable to March. I say, hello. Taking a break from your busy radio career? SignatureDavid "the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote : >> The full rhyme is: >> "March winds and April showers [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I say, hello. Taking a break from your busy radio career? Sarky. pe > "the Omrud"<usenet.omrud@gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > Sarky. Gosh, no. "Jealous" is more like it. SignatureDavid >> "the Omrud"<usenet.omrud@gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote : >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Gosh, no. "Jealous" is more like it. Well, I wouldn't recommend it. The last few weeks have been manic. You will, perhaps, tell me that I should sometimes say "no", and indeed I do, to anything before 8 o'clock. pe >>> "the Omrud"<usenet.omrud@gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote : >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > manic. You will, perhaps, tell me that I should sometimes say "no", > and indeed I do, to anything before 8 o'clock. I'm with you there. One of the joys of working at home is the fact that there's no need to rise early. SignatureDavid >>>> "the Omrud"<usenet.omrud@gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote : >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I'm with you there. One of the joys of working at home is the fact that > there's no need to rise early. And no-one knows what you're wearing. SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) >>>>> "the Omrud"<usenet.omrud@gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote : >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > And no-one knows what you're wearing. If anything. [...] >> Well, I wouldn't recommend it. The last few weeks have been >> manic. You will, perhaps, tell me that I should sometimes say "no", >> and indeed I do, to anything before 8 o'clock. > >I'm with you there. One of the joys of working at home is the fact that >there's no need to rise early. That's one of the myths about working at home. I've worked for companies that had work-at-home policies, and I learned to see it as a way to get more time out their employees without recompense. The truth is when you work on an on-line basis you have a 24x7 commitment. You can't walk away from your job by going to the parking lot (car park), getting in the car and driving away. I saw this policy as an abuse. I avoided it by consulting. That way every hour is billable and employers will ask you to control your hours. > [...] >>> Well, I wouldn't recommend it. The last few weeks have been [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That's one of the myths about working at home. Damn. I thought I'd been staying in bed until 08:30 every day when I work at home. > I've worked for companies > that had work-at-home policies, and I learned to see it as a way to get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > consulting. That way every hour is billable and employers will ask you > to control your hours. None of that is true for me. I have objectives, not working hours, and if I'm offline then nobody asks where I am. I can easily not answer my phone and drop offline for a few hours if I need to go out, or work without interruption. Some days, I spend 6 or more hours travelling. Nobody wonders why I'm not online. We don't have a culture of expecting people to be available out of hours. If something specific needs doing urgently, then we sometimes do work out of hours, but nobody in the whole company would *expect* me to respond to an email sent on Friday at 19:00, until Monday morning. I have never understood why having a BlackBerry implies that you're permanently available. I switch mine off in the evenings and at weekends. A colleague who previously worked (in the UK) for Intel told me that it was completely different there. If your manager sent a message on Saturday morning, you were expected to respond promptly. Perhaps it's an US vs UK business difference. SignatureDavid >> [...] >>>> Well, I wouldn't recommend it. The last few weeks have been [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >Saturday morning, you were expected to respond promptly. Perhaps it's >an US vs UK business difference. Is your experience generally true in the UK? I know the 40-hour work-week disappeared for exempt employees in the US long ago; it now is true for many hourlies , as well. One of the factors for the time increase is the availability of work-at-home aspects of employment. >>> [...] >>>>> Well, I wouldn't recommend it. The last few weeks have been [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > is true for many hourlies , as well. One of the factors for the time > increase is the availability of work-at-home aspects of employment. I don't really know, sorry - I've worked for the same company for 20 years, before which there wasn't a lot of home working. I am fairly senior and able to go where I think necessary (in the UK) and when I find it most convenient, without obtaining approval. Those who work for customers have to fill in a timesheet, of course, so they must have to be able to account for their time more carefully. But younger colleagues in HQ departments (as I am) are not closely monitored. A personal instance from this evening - I caught a train to London at about 15:00 and arrived at the hotel at 18:00. My manager phoned just as I got into my room and talked to me for 30 minutes. I could have ignored the phone, in which case he would have left a message and expected me to call back in the morning. However I had little else to do, so we discussed a current issue for a while. It was only when he asked me to join in with a voice conference tomorrow that I mentioned that I was in London and had several appointments tomorrow. He didn't know this in advance; he would only find out my exact movements if he could be bothered to scrutinise my expenses closely in about two months when I finally get around to sending them in. If I did go to my office, nothing would change. I haven't worked at a site within 200 miles of my manager for more than 10 years. Work at home or work in a company office, it's all the same to me. SignatureDavid in a Hilton > A colleague who previously worked (in the UK) for Intel told me that it > was completely different there. If your manager sent a message on > Saturday morning, you were expected to respond promptly. Perhaps it's > an US vs UK business difference. I think it is. When I worked (in Asia and occasionally travelling around Europe) for a US business, never day went by without an e-mail or fax from someone somewhere in the company on company business. That included weekends and holidays. One always sent one's superior(s) and colleagues full details of one's whereabouts while on (rather short) holidays. The first time I worked for a European organisation and left them these details they were baffled. As was I by their failure to contact me during my (longer) holiday and the fact that my job was still there when I got back, despite an incredible two weeks of radio silence. Funny what you can get used to. cheers, Stephanie "Murray Arnow" <arnow@iname.com> wrote : > [...] >>> Well, I wouldn't recommend it. The last few weeks have been [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > consulting. That way every hour is billable and employers will ask you > to control your hours. That's the way I do it too. I'm self-employed, working from home. pe > The full rhyme is: > "March winds and April showers > Bring forth May flowers." And what do may flowers bring? SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk >> The full rhyme is: >> "March winds and April showers >> Bring forth May flowers." > > And what do may flowers bring? Pilgrims SignatureJames James Hogg filted: >>> The full rhyme is: >>> "March winds and April showers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Pilgrims And some call that progress....r SignatureA pessimist sees the glass as half empty. An optometrist asks whether you see the glass more full like this?...or like this? >>> The full rhyme is: >>> "March winds and April showers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pilgrims Bedah-ting! We'll be here all week. SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk >>>> The full rhyme is: >>>> "March winds and April showers [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bedah-ting! We'll be here all week. Don't be silly. We haven't been there since at least 1620. SignatureRoland Hutchinson He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba," ... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy. --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ ) >>>>> The full rhyme is: >>>>> "March winds and April showers [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Don't be silly. We haven't been there since at least 1620. Go on. It must have been after midnight when you posted that. SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ >>>>>> The full rhyme is: >>>>>> "March winds and April showers [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Go on. It must have been after midnight when you posted that. About twenty of, EST, atcherly. SignatureRoland Hutchinson He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba," ... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy. --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ ) >> The full rhyme is: >> "March winds and April showers >> Bring forth May flowers." > > And what do may flowers bring? Allergies, for some. SignatureSkitt (AmE) not for me > In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no > matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? Around here we call it 'Texas.' > Incidentally, all we have at the moment is snow. > Cheers, > Ho SignatureLars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> Warbama's Afghaninam day: 41 1001.4 hours since Warbama declared Viet Nam II. Warbama: An LBJ for the Twenty-First century. No hope. No change. > In our last episode, <7r3au8Fv5...@mid.individual.net>, the lovely and > talented Holger Freese broadcast on alt.usage.english: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > 1001.4 hours since Warbama declared Viet Nam II. > Warbama: An LBJ for the Twenty-First century. No hope. No change. Now, now! Back in the 1950s, when I lived in Indiana, if the weather changed every half-hour, somebody would say "Tornado weather!" and start searching the sky anxiously. Not long after I moved to Texas, I heard the "If you don't like the weather" line, but back then, it was 20 minutes. Note: Texas is big enough that, on any one day, it has several types of weather scattered around the state. >> In our last episode, <7r3au8Fv5...@mid.individual.net>, the lovely and >> talented Holger Freese broadcast on alt.usage.english: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >enough that, on any one day, it has several types of weather scattered >around the state. It doesn't take a large state for this to happen. It can be raining in my front yard and clear and sunny in my son's front yard...a mile or so away. When I was flying a private plane, it was fascinating to see a rain cloud, with rain pouring down from it, and be able to fly around it without a drop on the windshield. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > >> In our last episode, <7r3au8Fv5...@mid.individual.net>, the lovely and > >> talented Holger Freese broadcast on alt.usage.english: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > cloud, with rain pouring down from it, and be able to fly around it > without a drop on the windshield. Thus the tall-tales (with a grain of truth!) about it pouring rain on one side of the fence and perfectly dry on the other. Favorite counter-example from literature: "It was raining on planet Mongo that morning." Jim Deutch (JimboCat) -- "It was totalitarian in Galaxy VII that morning . . . " [Bill Snyder] > Thus the tall-tales (with a grain of truth!) about it pouring rain > on one side of the fence and perfectly dry on the other. I vividly recall an incident when I was growing up in Chicago in which it was sunny in our front yard and raining reasonably hard on the other side of the street. It was very bizarre. SignatureEvan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Never attempt to teach a pig to 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |sing; it wastes your time and Palo Alto, CA 94304 |annoys the pig. | Robert Heinlein kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ Evan Kirshenbaum filted: >> Thus the tall-tales (with a grain of truth!) about it pouring rain >> on one side of the fence and perfectly dry on the other. > >I vividly recall an incident when I was growing up in Chicago in which >it was sunny in our front yard and raining reasonably hard on the >other side of the street. It was very bizarre. Happens all the time in Silver City, New Mexico...but then we're talking about a place where it rains sideways....r SignatureA pessimist sees the glass as half empty. An optometrist asks whether you see the glass more full like this?...or like this? >> Thus the tall-tales (with a grain of truth!) about it pouring rain >> on one side of the fence and perfectly dry on the other. > > I vividly recall an incident when I was growing up in Chicago in which > it was sunny in our front yard and raining reasonably hard on the > other side of the street. It was very bizarre. Very. I've only ever seen anything like that once in my life. SignatureRob Bannister Evan Kirshenbaum wrote, in <hbqphmkx.fsf@hpl.hp.com> on Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:43:58 -0800: > > Thus the tall-tales (with a grain of truth!) about it pouring rain > > on one side of the fence and perfectly dry on the other. > > I vividly recall an incident when I was growing up in Chicago in which > it was sunny in our front yard and raining reasonably hard on the > other side of the street. It was very bizarre. I've seen it once here, raining on my front garden and clear and sunny at the back. SignatureNick Spalding BrE/IrE >> >> In our last episode, <7r3au8Fv5...@mid.individual.net>, the lovely and >> >> talented Holger Freese broadcast on alt.usage.english: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Thus the tall-tales (with a grain of truth!) about it pouring rain on >one side of the fence and perfectly dry on the other. I don't think rain is ever as localized as that, but it's not uncommon in Florida to be driving and see a hard rain coming down ahead of you before any drops hit your windshield. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no > matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? > Incidentally, all we have at the moment is snow. April is the cruelest month. SignatureBob Lieblich Who knows >> In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no >> matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? >> Incidentally, all we have at the moment is snow. > >April is the cruelest month. Is that why the I.R.S. moved its infamous date from March 15 to April 15? > >> In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no > >> matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Is that why the I.R.S. moved its infamous date from March 15 to April > 15? Must be. We need no longer beware the Ides of March. SignatureTaxpayer Bob >> In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no >> matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? >> Incidentally, all we have at the moment is snow. > >April is the cruelest month. I will show you fear in a handful of dust. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no > matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? > Incidentally, all we have at the moment is snow. The nearest that I can think of is "four seasons in a day". Here's a song about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmAt6S9fTNI SignatureRegards John for mail: my initials plus a u e at tpg dot com dot au Holger Freese: > In Germany we call changeable weather Aprilwetter ("April weather") no > matter what month it is. Do you have a similar expression? Not that I know of. If I heard "April weather", I'd think of sunny days with highs around 20 Celsius. We have a continental climate here -- that is, it varies a lot at any time of year -- with no wet or dry seasons, so I don't associate one month more than another with "changeable weather". SignatureMark Brader "I suppose that the distances from us [to the Toronto stars] vary so much that some are two or three msb@vex.net times as remote as others." -- Galileo My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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