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aquachimp - 13 Jan 2010 18:46 GMT
Hi, my wife loves to read and is keen to get an e-reader; I've being
trying to find information for her; So far I know that there are
supposed to be 3 main leaders, two of them being the Amazon Kindle(s)
and the Sony(s), but that reviewer didn't mention the third, but
"nook" by Barnes & Noble is mentioned on this site; http://ebookreader.compare2save.net/
Sadly, I don't even understand some of the terminology re media
formats supported.

My question here is to find out if anyone here can throw some light on
the subject and in particular, are things like commas and full stops
clearly visible. Oh, and do any come with a dictionary whereby she can
highlight a word and find out what it means (she reads lots of  books
and magazines  that are in English, but it's not her language, so she
usually shouts out to me, "what does ... mean?". To which I'm often
stomped myself and at other times I give an explanation according to
how she has pronounced a word, just not the way its written)

Thanks.
aquachimp - 13 Jan 2010 19:11 GMT
On Jan 13, 7:46 pm, aquachimp <aquach...@aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> Hi, my wife loves to read and is keen to get an e-reader; I've being
> trying to find information for her; So far I know that there are
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>
> Thanks.

OK to answer my own question, I see the Kindle has the dictionary.
Don't know yet about the others. All are a clear read. None mention
tips on grammar.
James Silverton - 13 Jan 2010 19:21 GMT
aquachimp  wrote  on Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:46:59 -0800 (PST):

> My question here is to find out if anyone here can throw some
> light on the subject and in particular, are things like commas
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> myself and at other times I give an explanation according to
> how she has pronounced a word, just not the way its written)

As others have said, and some of my relatives concur, Kindle seems to
meet the approval of many. I don't know what is the technical term but
the time to change pages is obviously something that one would like
minimized. Personally, I would also like as short as possible a time to
go an arbitrary page.  I don't have one but the e-paper displays I have
handled in stores seem very adequately readable, including punctuation.

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Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

aquachimp - 13 Jan 2010 19:37 GMT
On Jan 13, 8:21 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.net>
wrote:
>  aquachimp  wrote  on Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:46:59 -0800 (PST):
>
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>
> As others have said,

Can you point me to that please; A search within this group for e-
reader gave no results.

Thanks
James Silverton - 14 Jan 2010 01:55 GMT
aquachimp  wrote  on Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:37:56 -0800 (PST):

> On Jan 13, 8:21 pm, "James Silverton"
> <not.jim.silver...@verizon.net> wrote:
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>>
>> As others have said,

> Can you point me to that please; A search within this group
> for e- reader gave no results.

I think Laura's response covers the discussion. I'm no expert tho' I
have played with the Barnes and Noble Nook, the Sony and the Kindle in
stores. The Nook was sold out very quickly before Xmas here tho' they
promised delivery in the early New Year. The local paper (Washington
Post) did not like the Nook touchscreen but they seem to be in a
minority.  Fortunately, my son and DIL wanted the Kindle and I could
arrange Xmas delivery from Amazon.

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LFS - 13 Jan 2010 19:39 GMT
> Hi, my wife loves to read and is keen to get an e-reader; I've being
> trying to find information for her; So far I know that there are
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks.

I don't think the Nook is available in the UK. The Kindle is shipped to
the UK but I believe that its WiFi function is limited here - Chuck
Riggs has one, I'm sure he can tell you more. There are quite a few
others on the market but you need to take care over what format of
ebooks each uses as this may limit the books available for download.

I have a Sony Touch ereader. The font size can be adjusted so the
punctuation is clear. The dictionary function is very easy to use by
just highlighting the word - the definition then appears.

It's a different reading experience - it's not like holding a book and
turning pages - and I can't see it replacing ordinary books but I find
it very useful when travelling.

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Eric Walker - 14 Jan 2010 02:12 GMT
> Hi, my wife loves to read and is keen to get an e-reader . . .

I did some homework on the topic a month or so ago, and the clear
consensus of informed opinion seems to be "Don't buy now."  There are
some major changes in the overall market expected during the next few
months, and chances are that any item bought today will look fairly
shabby before very long at all.  This is not as with computers a case of
continual ongoing improvement: I gather that the experts expect major one-
time breakthroughs soon.

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Eric Walker, Owlcroft House
http://owlcroft.com/english/

James Silverton - 14 Jan 2010 02:17 GMT
Eric  wrote  on Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:12:21 +0000 (UTC):

>> Hi, my wife loves to read and is keen to get an e-reader . .
>> .

> I did some homework on the topic a month or so ago, and the
> clear consensus of informed opinion seems to be "Don't buy
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> ongoing improvement: I gather that the experts expect major one- time
> breakthroughs soon.

There is a concensus that color e-paper will be available in a year or
so but e-books are not so expensive that you need deprive yourself of
one for that time.

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aquachimp - 14 Jan 2010 09:53 GMT
> > Hi, my wife loves to read and is keen to get an e-reader . . .
>
> I did some homework on the topic a month or so ago, and the clear
> consensus of informed opinion seems to be "Don't buy now."  

Ah, I shall pass that on>

>There are
> some major changes in the overall market expected during the next few
> months, and chances are that any item bought today will look fairly
> shabby before very long at all.  This is not as with computers a case of
> continual ongoing improvement: I gather that the experts expect major one-
> time breakthroughs soon.

Thanks.
And thank-you all.
aquachimp - 16 Jan 2010 15:08 GMT
> > Hi, my wife loves to read and is keen to get an e-reader . . .
>
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> continual ongoing improvement: I gather that the experts expect major one-
> time breakthroughs soon.

By way of confirmation (well, sort of, at least)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6998222/LG-unveils-bendable-ebook-for
-newspapers.html

J. J. Lodder - 16 Jan 2010 16:48 GMT
> > > Hi, my wife loves to read and is keen to get an e-reader . . .
> >
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> By way of confirmation (well, sort of, at least)
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6998222/LG-unveils-bendable-ebook-for
-newspapers.html

Or perhaps the fabled Apple tablet,

Jan
Mardon - 14 Jan 2010 18:10 GMT
aquachimp <aquachimp@aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> My question here is to find out if anyone here can throw some light on
> the subject and in particular, are things like commas and full stops
> clearly visible. Oh, and do any come with a dictionary whereby she can
> highlight a word and find out what it means (she reads lots of  books

I'm probably in the minority but I prefer the smaller, backlit readers to
the larger e-paper devices.   I currently use an iPod Touch with eReader
Pro software (free).   Since the iPod Touch has a backlight, it can be read
in the dark.  The font size is easily adjustable and the software includes
the ability to lookup words in a reference dictionary by highlighting and
clicking the word.  The Touch fits easily in a pocket so I can take it
everywhere.  I also enjoy occasional audio books and movies.  The Touch
plays those also; not to mention the other fun Apps available for the
Touch.  I realize that a lot of people say they would never read a book on
a device as small as an iPod touch.  Personally, I like it.  I use the
"huge" font size.  This displays about 50 words per page.  A slight tap of
the screen with my thumb or finger is all it takes to turn a page.  The
largest available font size is called "gigantic".   It displays about 38
words per page.    Punctuation is clearly visible.  There's lots of books
available too.   I usually get mine from www.ereader.com.
LFS - 14 Jan 2010 18:19 GMT
> aquachimp <aquachimp@aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
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> words per page.    Punctuation is clearly visible.  There's lots of books
> available too.   I usually get mine from www.ereader.com.

My friend in the US reads books on her iPhone - I tried it out when I
was there and the backlit screen is an advantage. When I can afford an
iPhone I shall probably use that. I can put .pdf files on the Sony Touch
so I can read - and annotate - papers to do with work on it which I find
useful.
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James Silverton - 14 Jan 2010 19:33 GMT
LFS  wrote  on Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:19:43 +0000:

>>> My question here is to find out if anyone here can throw
>>> some light on the subject and in particular, are things like
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>> visible.  There's lots of books available too.   I usually
>> get mine from www.ereader.com.

> My friend in the US reads books on her iPhone - I tried it out
> when I was there and the backlit screen is an advantage. When I can
> afford an iPhone I shall probably use that. I can put
> .pdf files on the Sony Touch so I can read - and annotate -
> papers to do with work on it which I find useful.

I am quite a fast reader and I found the paper-back sized Kindle screen
just large enough. I have analysed my method and I find I use a diagonal
scan of several lines at once.  Anything smaller than the Kindle just
slows me down and I find myself becoming impatient.

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Potomac, Maryland

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aquachimp - 14 Jan 2010 19:52 GMT
On Jan 14, 8:33 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.net>
wrote:
>  LFS  wrote  on Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:19:43 +0000:
>
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>
> Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

I hadn't realised that the brown banner headings; near the top of the
http://ebookreader.compare2save.net/sony-e-reader.html page, just
under the magnifying glass, were links to videoed reviews;
When clicking on the Kindle link I found a reviewer pointing out that
he was often accidentally turning the page because of what he seems to
imply is a design fault.
Would that be your experience?

ps the Sony review should probably be used to show how not to ...
(zzzzzzzzz)
Chuck Riggs - 15 Jan 2010 14:22 GMT
<snip>

>I am quite a fast reader and I found the paper-back sized Kindle screen
>just large enough. I have analysed my method and I find I use a diagonal
>scan of several lines at once.  Anything smaller than the Kindle just
>slows me down and I find myself becoming impatient.

Good man.
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Chuck Riggs,
An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE

J. J. Lodder - 14 Jan 2010 21:54 GMT
> > aquachimp <aquachimp@aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >
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> so I can read - and annotate - papers to do with work on it which I find
> useful.

The iPod Touch works just as well for book reading,
and is a lot cheaper, [1]

Jan

[1] Better even, the iPod Touch can have more storage.
LFS - 14 Jan 2010 22:11 GMT
>> My friend in the US reads books on her iPhone - I tried it out when I
>> was there and the backlit screen is an advantage. When I can afford an
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>
> [1] Better even, the iPod Touch can have more storage.

Yes, but I'm hoping to reduce the amount I need to carry - an iPhone
does the lot.

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J. J. Lodder - 15 Jan 2010 10:33 GMT
> >> My friend in the US reads books on her iPhone - I tried it out when I
> >> was there and the backlit screen is an advantage. When I can afford an
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> Yes, but I'm hoping to reduce the amount I need to carry - an iPhone
> does the lot.

For a lot of pounds per pound,

Jan
Evan Kirshenbaum - 15 Jan 2010 23:21 GMT
>> > [1] Better even, the iPod Touch can have more storage.
>>
>> Yes, but I'm hoping to reduce the amount I need to carry - an
>> iPhone does the lot.
>
> For a lot of pounds per pound,

A big constant, in other words?

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J. J. Lodder - 16 Jan 2010 12:44 GMT
> >> > [1] Better even, the iPod Touch can have more storage.
> >>
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>
> A big constant, in other words?

Pounds get cheaper all the time,

Jan
 
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