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Sara Lorimer - 18 Jan 2010 17:58 GMT
Embarrassingly, I am just now getting around to reading Douglas Adams's
"The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul." A house is described thusly: "The
hallway spoke of prosperity imposed on a taste that had originally been
formed by student living... Dirk was prepared to bet... that a thorough
search of the house would reveal, among who knew what other dark
secrets, five hundred British Telecom shares and a set of Dylan albums
that was complete up to "Blood on the Tracks."'

I understand (and am amused by) the general idea, but what is the
implication of British Telecom shares, in a book written in 1988? Would
500 shares be a lot? Was it a reliable but boring investment? Something
else?

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 18 Jan 2010 18:57 GMT
>Embarrassingly, I am just now getting around to reading Douglas Adams's
>"The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul." A house is described thusly: "The
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>500 shares be a lot? Was it a reliable but boring investment? Something
>else?

The background is that the telephone service in the UK was originally
provided by the Post Office. In 1984 the telecommunications division of
the PO was privatised. Shares were sold explicitly to private investors,
ordinary citizens, the general public, rather than through the stock
exchange. For many people they were the first shares they ever owned,
and for many they were the last.

The presence of "five hundred British Telecom shares" would be as much
an symbol of the spirit of the times, passing fashions, as "a set of
Dylan albums that was complete up to 'Blood on the Tracks'".

From:
http://www.btplc.com/Thegroup/BTsHistory/Privatisationinfosheetissue2.pdf

   Telecommunications Act 1984
   ....
   The concept of whether enterprises were public or private had become
   of 50.2 per cent of shares in British Telecom went smoothly. As a
   result the Government authorised the largest marketing campaign ever
   for the sale of a new share issue to provide information, but more
   importantly to create widespread interest in the shares. In this
   respect the policy was successful with full subscription and wider
   share ownership being achieved.
   One of the main motivations behind such an issue of shares is the
   desire to spread share ownership as widely as possible throughout
   the population with the aim of building support for the Government
   by creating vested interests in the process. The partial sale of the
   Government’s share holding in an enterprise has the added benefit of
   positively contributing to the Public Sector Borrowing Requirement
   (PSBR). Once the Government holding has fallen below 50 per cent
   then any future capital borrowed is exempt from the PSBR, a figure
   that the Conservatives were keen to reduce.
   The sale of 50.2 per cent of shares in British Telecom in 1984 was
   revolutionary in its scale and experimental in its marketing.
   Ultimately it was not just British Telecom that was being sold, but
   the whole concept of privatisation.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 18 Jan 2010 19:00 GMT
Sorry, there was a line missing:

   The concept of whether enterprises were public or private had become
   an election issue so it was vital for the Government that the sale
   of 50.2 per cent of shares in British Telecom went smoothly. As a
   result the Government authorised the largest marketing campaign ever
   for the sale of a new share issue to provide information, but more
   importantly to create widespread interest in the shares. In this
   respect the policy was successful with full subscription and wider
   share ownership being achieved.

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Prai Jei - 20 Jan 2010 18:30 GMT
Peter Duncanson (BrE) set the following eddies spiralling through the
space-time continuum:

> The presence of "five hundred British Telecom shares" would be as much
> an symbol of the spirit of the times, passing fashions, as "a set of
> Dylan albums that was complete up to 'Blood on the Tracks'".

Or a Sinclair C5 parked outside.
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the Omrud - 18 Jan 2010 18:59 GMT
> Embarrassingly, I am just now getting around to reading Douglas Adams's
> "The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul." A house is described thusly: "The
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> 500 shares be a lot? Was it a reliable but boring investment? Something
> else?

British Telecom (now just "BT") was privatised in 1984.  So many people
applied for the share issue that individuals were allocated no more than
a token number of shares, no matter how many the wanted.  I wouldn't be
surprised to hear that it was 500.

Have you read "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"?  You probably
should read that first.

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Sara Lorimer - 19 Jan 2010 22:39 GMT
> Have you read "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"?  You probably
> should read that first.

I haven't. But now I'm a bit further along and the book isn't really
drawing me in; I might not finish it.

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Garrett Wollman - 19 Jan 2010 23:18 GMT
>> Have you read "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"?  You probably
>> should read that first.
>
>I haven't. But now I'm a bit further along and the book isn't really
>drawing me in; I might not finish it.

I did finish /Tea-Time/ but felt rather the same.  The earlier book
(cited by David above) was much better.  It was also made into a
reasonably accurate radio play that occasionally resurfaces on BBC
Radio 7.

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R H Draney - 19 Jan 2010 23:29 GMT
Garrett Wollman filted:

>>> Have you read "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"?  You probably
>>> should read that first.
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>reasonably accurate radio play that occasionally resurfaces on BBC
>Radio 7.

Bits of the first Dirk Gently book were also re-used from the unaired Doctor Who
story "Shada"....r

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the Omrud - 20 Jan 2010 10:09 GMT
> Garrett Wollman filted:
>>
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> Bits of the first Dirk Gently book were also re-used from the unaired Doctor Who
> story "Shada"....r

And some of the basic story was taken from Adams' Doctor Who story "City
of Death".  I recognised it half way through the book and guessed the
ending, but it's still a good book.  The final throwaway non-plot point
involving music still makes me grin when I think of it.

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Prai Jei - 20 Jan 2010 18:28 GMT
the Omrud set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

> British Telecom (now just "BT") was privatised in 1984.  So many people
> applied for the share issue that individuals were allocated no more than
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> Have you read "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"?  You probably
> should read that first.

ISTR 800 (the 500 was actually with British Gas, the next one that That
Great Charmer (anag.) tried out. I joined in the fun on both occasions, but
after a while I found I needed the money so I sold the little bits of paper
to somebody who advertised in one of the newspapers and I had some cash
back.

Certainly those who ordered silly numbers of shares, something like
>150,000, got nowt.
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Steve Hayes - 19 Jan 2010 04:44 GMT
>Embarrassingly, I am just now getting around to reading Douglas Adams's
>"The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul." A house is described thusly: "The
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>500 shares be a lot? Was it a reliable but boring investment? Something
>else?

Prolly something to do with Margaret Thatcher's privatisation mania.

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