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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2010THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO EFFECTIVELY FIGHT TERRORISM !
The surest way to prevent terrorism is to take away the matter of them. For if there be fuel prepared it is hard to tell when the spark shall come that will set it on fire. Much poverty and much discontentment motivates terrorists. Industry and satisfaction diffuses the spark. When factions grown desperate, they join forces in a common cause. Why are we fanning the flames? http://surftofind.com/art > The surest way to prevent terrorism is to take away the matter of > them. For if there be fuel prepared it is hard to tell when the spark [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://surftofind.com/art How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is not it. You may want to consider the violent nature of Islam itself. >How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the >upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is >not it. You may want to consider the violent nature of Islam itself. How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the upper class of capitalist society (eg Patty Hearst)? You may want to conder the violent nature of capitalism itself.  SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk >>How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the >>upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >class of capitalist society (eg Patty Hearst)? You may want to conder the >violent nature of capitalism itself. After condering it, the survival of the economically fittest, which is capitalism in a nutshell, seldom involves violence, IMO. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE >>> How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the >>> upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > After condering it, the survival of the economically fittest, which is > capitalism in a nutshell, seldom involves violence, IMO. Except of course, when you have riots of the less economically fit. But is anyone really surprised that in any culture or society it's usually some of the people who have time and money enough to read and write revolutionary tracts who become the terrorists? It's been noted time and time again. The really poor or oppressed, in whose name all this violence is done, are generally too preoccupied in staying alive to bother much with political theory and action. They might riot, but they're not going to be spending their time learning how to make bombs while their families go hungry. SignatureCheryl >>>> How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the >>>> upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> After condering it, the survival of the economically fittest, which is >> capitalism in a nutshell, seldom involves violence, IMO. The phrase "survival of the fittest" always pushes one of my buttons when it's used to refer to individuals rather than species. I'll resist the temptation this time, though. > Except of course, when you have riots of the less economically fit. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > they're not going to be spending their time learning how to make bombs > while their families go hungry. Revolutions have traditionally required an alliance between workers and intellectuals. The downtrodden provide the dissatisfaction, but they still need someone to tell them how to be uptrodden. SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. > Revolutions have traditionally required an alliance between workers and > intellectuals. The downtrodden provide the dissatisfaction, but they > still need someone to tell them how to be uptrodden. And the cannon-fodder. Somehow it's never the intellectuals who end up charging the army or strapping explosives to themselves. SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk >> Revolutions have traditionally required an alliance between workers and >> intellectuals. The downtrodden provide the dissatisfaction, but they >> still need someone to tell them how to be uptrodden. > And the cannon-fodder. Somehow it's never the intellectuals who end up > charging the army or strapping explosives to themselves. I doubt that is entirely accurate. Muslim terrorist attackers in the West have fairly often belonged to the privileged and educated classes. Domestic terrorists in the US, not so much. I do not have the facts to generalize about the Irish. What about the Stern gang? It's hard for me to make out the demographics of the rank-and-file of the Contras. I suppose we could quibble about 'intellectuals.' Does that mean only academics with social, political, or economic theories? Or might we include university trained physicians? SignatureLars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> Warbama's Afghaninam day: 52 1257.5 hours since Warbama declared Viet Nam II. Warbama: An LBJ for the Twenty-First century. No hope. No change. >>>> How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the >>>> upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >they're not going to be spending their time learning how to make bombs >while their families go hungry. Responding to alt.usage.english only, from a group of five newsgroups, I'll admit I forgot about the French Revolution. BAD BOY. Who the hell is inviting all these other newsgroups to our discussions? Don't answer. Just quit doing it, please. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > Who the hell is inviting all these other newsgroups to our > discussions? Don't answer. Just quit doing it, please. It's more probably the other way around. No aue regular would shout in the Subject line. On the other hand, some people have the unfortunate habit of cross-posting to aue when they think they've caught out an opponent splitting an infinitive. SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. >> Who the hell is inviting all these other newsgroups to our >> discussions? Don't answer. Just quit doing it, please. > >It's more probably the other way around. No aue regular would shout in >the Subject line. True. I didn't noticed the Subject line. >On the other hand, some people have the unfortunate >habit of cross-posting to aue when they think they've caught out an >opponent splitting an infinitive. Does AEU see as many cross-posts? SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE >>>How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the >>>upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >After condering it, the survival of the economically fittest, which is >capitalism in a nutshell, seldom involves violence, IMO. You obviously haven't seen taxi wars. But the prohibition era in the USA was legendary for its violence over markets for bootleg liquor. SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk The best way is since they are going to blow themselves up anyway is to help the process along. Untill their aren't enough crazy people left > >How do you explain the fact that so many terrorists have come from the > >upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > class of capitalist society (eg Patty Hearst)? You may want to conder the > violent nature of capitalism itself. Patty Hearst was a kidnap VICTIM. Really bad example, but thanks for playing/ SignatureTo find that place where the rats don't race and the phones don't ring at all. If once, you've slept on an island. Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an island" > > The surest way to prevent terrorism is to take away the matter of > > them. For if there be fuel prepared it is hard to tell when the spark [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > upper class of Muslim society. Look for a different cause. Poverty is > not it. You may want to consider the violent nature of Islam itself. Also the feeling of guilt which certain aspects of Islam teach. That's how the bin Laden family can support Osama and his crazies and still act like normal Arabs. This is repeated in many rich Muslim families, much as many rich Americans joined in the hippie movement in the 60s. Most of them, including the 'not' rich, lived off those monthly checks from Mamma and Papa. > The surest way to prevent terrorism is to take away the matter of > them. For if there be fuel prepared it is hard to tell when the spark > shall come that will > > set it on fire. Much poverty and much discontentment motivates > terrorists. Not exactly; One can be poor and yet content. From what I've read, we all tend to dwell within a personal range of contentment. This means that a grumpy poor man will, upon winning millions, turn into a grumpy rich bloke. Only the excuses for the moodiness will have changed. > Industry and satisfaction diffuses the spark. Slavery was an industry. There seems to be a difference between revolt and terrorism. Satisfaction may be linked to contentment as mentioned above. The kind of thing that might gnaw on it would be things such as perceived injustices, inequalities, corruption and witnessing forms of subjugation, especially at the hands of 'foreigners' >When > factions grown desperate, they > > join forces in a common cause. These factions have the luxury to entertain the exploration of their personal growth in and through political intellect >Why are we fanning the flames? We? Who's "we"? Humph! |
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