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Morrison: this/that a way

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Marius Hancu - 19 Jan 2010 16:38 GMT
Hello:

"this a way/that a way"
seem dialect, right?

---
[The hunting party spreads for the kill]

"We'll head this a way and circle over by the gulch. Don't shoot no
bears, now."

Toni Morrison, Song of Solomon, p. 273
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--
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Ray O'Hara - 19 Jan 2010 16:53 GMT
> Hello:
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Yes
> Thanks.
> Marius Hancu
Marius Hancu - 19 Jan 2010 17:12 GMT
> > "this a way/that a way"
> > seem dialect, right?
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>
> Yes

Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Ian Jackson - 19 Jan 2010 22:55 GMT
>> Hello:
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>Yes

FYI....
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j2B-sT8rKM>
<http://www.whosdatedwho.com/topic/7127/ha-ha-this-a-way.htm>
<http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:qtIltw5qsNAJ:www.songsforteaching.com
/animalsongs/thethreelittlepigs.htm+ha+ha+this+a+way+lyrics&cd=11&hl=en&c
t=clnk&gl=uk>
<http://www.lyrics.com/ha-ha-this-a-way-t-837694-lyrics-leadbelly.html>

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Ian

Frank ess - 20 Jan 2010 00:58 GMT
>>> Hello:
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> t=clnk&gl=uk>
> <http://www.lyrics.com/ha-ha-this-a-way-t-837694-lyrics-leadbelly.html>

I remember enjoying this movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043371/

(/Callaway Went Thataway/)

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Frank ess

tony cooper - 19 Jan 2010 17:19 GMT
>Hello:
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>Toni Morrison, Song of Solomon, p. 273
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I would expect "thisaway".  Anyone who went to the Saturday morning
oater movies is quite familiar with "thisaway" and "thataway".  You
can break it up into three sections or hyphenate it in print, but it
is said as a single word.

Careful, though, in deciding that this is a term of dialect of the
group you are reading about.  

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

LFS - 19 Jan 2010 17:22 GMT
>> Hello:
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> I would expect "thisaway".  Anyone who went to the Saturday morning
> oater movies is quite familiar with "thisaway" and "thataway".  

Oater?

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Cheryl - 19 Jan 2010 17:37 GMT
>>> Hello:
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> Oater?

Westerns, cowboy movies, and probably not the best of that movie genre.
Maybe the best actors were the horses!

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Cheryl

Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 19 Jan 2010 18:11 GMT
>>>> Hello:
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>Westerns, cowboy movies,

aka "horse operas". Horses eat oats.

> and probably not the best of that movie genre.
>Maybe the best actors were the horses!

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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

tony cooper - 19 Jan 2010 19:37 GMT
>>> Hello:
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>Oater?

Cowboy movie.  Often serials.  Sometimes called "horse operas".  

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Pat Durkin - 19 Jan 2010 20:26 GMT
>>> Hello:
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> Oater?

A common answer in some crossword puzzles.

My experience of the Saturday movies (No, not in the a.m., but it may
have been different in Tony's area) was that they were serials.  Short
bursts of film for a nickel a kid.  Flash Gordon and gangster movies
were also popular.  If I recall, Whip Wilson and Lash LaRue were stars
in the old '40s cowboy serials.  And it might be that the "Bowery
Boys" descended from that genre (although I know at least some of
those characters came from the "Dead End" movie, and they were called
"the Dead End Kids", and then "the East Side Kids").  I can recall a
high school English text (or reader) that had Whitey from "the East
Side Kids" in a photo.
Ray O'Hara - 20 Jan 2010 01:32 GMT
>>>> Hello:
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> then "the East Side Kids").  I can recall a high school English text (or
> reader) that had Whitey from "the East Side Kids" in a photo.

The Dead End Kids debuted in the Bogart/Cagney/O'Brien movie 'Angels With
Dirty Faces' a classic Cagney gangster flick.
Pat Durkin - 20 Jan 2010 02:19 GMT
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> The Dead End Kids debuted in the Bogart/Cagney/O'Brien movie 'Angels
> With Dirty Faces' a classic Cagney gangster flick.

Oh, and not in the film "Dead End"?  A classic Bogey movie?
Dead End (1937)
Gangster Baby Face Martin goes back to the East Side street where he
grew up to see his mother, who denounces him as a murderer, and his
childhood girlfriend who is now a streetwalker. Written by Ed Stephan
{stephan@cc.wwu.edu}

The Dead End Kids are introduced in their intricate East Side slum,
overlooked by the apartments of the rich. Their antics, some funny,
some vicious, alternate with subplots: unemployed architect Dave is
torn between Drina, sweet but equally poor, and Kay, a rich man's
mistress; gangster Baby Face Martin returns to his old neighborhood
and finds that nobody is glad to see him. Then violent crime, both
juvenile and adult, impacts the neighborhood and its people.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029870/  Angels with Dirty Faces came out
in 1938.

Besides giving them the name, Dead End had and actress named
Wendy Barrie.  So there!  (Oh, Bogie was a baddie, and Joel McCrea a
good guy)
Robin Bignall - 20 Jan 2010 22:38 GMT
>>>>>> Hello:
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>childhood girlfriend who is now a streetwalker. Written by Ed Stephan
>{stephan@cc.wwu.edu}

According to IMDB "Dead End" starred Leo Gorcey and Huntz Hall, who
were also the two key players of "The Bowery Boys" in "Angels with
Dirty Faces".

Gorcey was the short one with the gruff voice and battered hat, with
which he was always hitting the tall, goofy Hall.

>The Dead End Kids are introduced in their intricate East Side slum,
>overlooked by the apartments of the rich. Their antics, some funny,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>good guy)
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Robin
(BrE)
Herts, England

 
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