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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2010Police brutality?
From: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/24/BA4K1BMUML.DTL Headline: SFPD: officer killed man with machete.  SignatureSkitt (AmE) Skitt skrev: > SFPD: officer killed man with machete. Man with machete killed by officer (poor machete ...) SignatureBertel, Denmark >> SFPD: officer killed man with machete. > Man with machete killed by officer > (poor machete ...) "Officer killed machete wielder" would have been marginally shorter, more colorful, and unambiguous. "It's not the size of the boat, it's Matt McIrvin" -- Joe ¬R / http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/ny2001.html / Manfre Glenn Knickerbocker filted: >>> SFPD: officer killed man with machete. >> Man with machete killed by officer >> (poor machete ...) > >"Officer killed machete wielder" would have been marginally shorter, more >colorful, and unambiguous. Except that now you don't know whether the one killed was a man, woman, child or polar bear....r SignatureA pessimist sees the glass as half empty. An optometrist asks whether you see the glass more full like this?...or like this? > Glenn Knickerbocker filted: >>>> SFPD: officer killed man with machete. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Except that now you don't know whether the one killed was a man, woman, child or > polar bear....r Not a polar bear. They were elsewhere, causing a Senate loss. SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. > Glenn Knickerbocker filted: >>>> SFPD: officer killed man with machete. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Except that now you don't know whether the one killed was a man, woman, child or > polar bear....r "Officer kills machete man" would be adequate headlinese. I found a different story that was given an equally ambiguous headline: "Florida Man Charged in Machete Attack on Son" SignatureJames >> Glenn Knickerbocker filted: >>>>> SFPD: officer killed man with machete. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > "Florida Man Charged in Machete Attack on Son" Well you'd have to, otherwise he'd see you coming and run away. SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk Nick filted: >> I found a different story that was given an equally ambiguous headline: >> >> "Florida Man Charged in Machete Attack on Son" > >Well you'd have to, otherwise he'd see you coming and run away. Nobody pays cash any more....r SignatureA pessimist sees the glass as half empty. An optometrist asks whether you see the glass more full like this?...or like this? > Nick filted: >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Nobody pays cash any more....r If people see the latest Frontline documentary 'The Card Game' that might change. yowsa! >> Glenn Knickerbocker filted: >>>>> SFPD: officer killed man with machete. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > "Florida Man Charged in Machete Attack on Son" Actually that works at several levels, He probably charged his son slashing away and then he was charged by the Police to disarm him and then charged with a crime. It smacks of brilliance. > Skitt skrev: > >> SFPD: officer killed man with machete. > > Man with machete killed by officer > (poor machete ...) "poor machete ..." -- is this a Danish joke I don't get? Signature~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~ >> Skitt skrev: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > "poor machete ..." -- is this a Danish joke I don't get? He's just expressing his sympathy for the machete that was killed by the officer, the same machete that the man was with. SignatureEvan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Never ascribe to malice that which 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |can adequately be explained by Palo Alto, CA 94304 |stupidity. kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ >>> Skitt skrev: >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > He's just expressing his sympathy for the machete that was killed > by the officer, the same machete that the man was with. Ahhh! Thanks for explaining Bertel's superb knee-slapper. Signature~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~ > From:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/24/BA4K1BMUM... > > Headline: > > SFPD: officer killed man with machete. One from Reuters that was at Language Log recently: White House Says Bears Part Of Blame For Senate Loss -- Jerry Friedman > From: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/24/BA4K1BMUML.DTL > > Headline: > > SFPD: officer killed man with machete. This sort of thing often makes me wonder why we don't use parentheses (or similar) in English in much the same way as they are used in programming languages: "officer killed (man with machete)" SignatureLong-time resident of Adelaide, South Australia, which may or may not influence my opinions. >> From: >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/24/BA4K1BMUML.DTL [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >"officer killed (man with machete)" "Man with machete killed by officer" does the trick, although newspaper editors don't seem to like the passive voice. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE annily skrev: > This sort of thing often makes me wonder why we don't use parentheses > (or similar) in English in much the same way as they are used in > programming languages: > "officer killed (man with machete)" The parenthesis might be taken as an explanation: A man with a machete did it. SignatureBertel, Denmark |
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