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Marius Hancu - 27 Jan 2010 17:25 GMT
Hello:

Does
"potty"
mean here
"crazy"
or
"related to its excretion (using the chamber pot)?"

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When he was seven, his mother had presented him with a baby dime-store
terrapin, which he'd named Timmy and later flushed down the toilet in
disapproval of its casual potty habits.

Carl Hiaasen, Skinny Dip, p. 75
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
HVS - 27 Jan 2010 17:33 GMT
On 27 Jan 2010, Marius Hancu wrote

> Hello:
>
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> Carl Hiaasen, Skinny Dip, p. 75
> ----

I'd read it as the last one:  he flushed it away because it pooped
everywhere.

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Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed

Marius Hancu - 04 Feb 2010 13:18 GMT
> > Does
> > "potty"
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> I'd read it as the last one:  he flushed it away because it pooped
> everywhere.

OK.

Thank you all.
Marius Hancu
Cheryl - 27 Jan 2010 17:50 GMT
> Hello:
>
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> Thanks.
> Marius Hancu

I think the problem probably was that the terrapin did not use a chamber
pot.

"Potty habits", a reference to the little plastic pots used in training
small children, means habits involving excretion or urination.

Oddly enough, I never thought of calling the children's version a
'chamber pot', although technically I suppose it is one. To me, a
chamber pot is large, old-fashioned, made of pottery, probably decorated
with a floral design, and accompanied by a matching bowl for washing.

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Cheryl

HVS - 27 Jan 2010 17:55 GMT
On 27 Jan 2010, Cheryl wrote

> Oddly enough, I never thought of calling the children's version
> a 'chamber pot', although technically I suppose it is one. To
> me, a chamber pot is large, old-fashioned, made of pottery,
> probably decorated with a floral design,

...and probably the most disgusting household article I can think of.

(No, hang on:  that'd be a toilet brush.)

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Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed

Roland Hutchinson - 27 Jan 2010 20:13 GMT
> On 27 Jan 2010, Cheryl wrote
>
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>
> (No, hang on:  that'd be a toilet brush.)

Would Sir care to examine our range of fine-quality spitoons?

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Roland Hutchinson       

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... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy.
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HVS - 27 Jan 2010 22:12 GMT
On 27 Jan 2010, Roland Hutchinson wrote

>> On 27 Jan 2010, Cheryl wrote
>>
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>
> Would Sir care to examine our range of fine-quality spitoons?

If it's the only way to avoid toilet brushes, I guess I'll have to...

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CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed

Roland Hutchinson - 28 Jan 2010 04:29 GMT
> On 27 Jan 2010, Roland Hutchinson wrote
>
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>
> If it's the only way to avoid toilet brushes, I guess I'll have to...

Kindly walk this way...

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Roland Hutchinson       

He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba,"
... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy.
--Newark (NJ) Star Ledger  ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ )

Arcadian Rises - 28 Jan 2010 05:18 GMT
> > On 27 Jan 2010, Cheryl wrote
>
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>
> Would Sir care to examine our range of fine-quality spitoons?

Is a spitoon a regular household item?

Now, I admit, I'm a country girl and English is not my firsy language,
so perhaps those posh, luxurious mansions and penthouses which I've
never visited are all furnished with fine-quality spitoons.
sjdevnull@yahoo.com - 28 Jan 2010 07:40 GMT
> > > On 27 Jan 2010, Cheryl wrote
>
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> so perhaps those posh, luxurious mansions and penthouses which I've
> never visited are all furnished with fine-quality spitoons.

Perhaps things differ on the ancestral side of the ocean, but to me
they seem no less common than chamber pots as household items go--
which is to say, I've never seen either in a building which served as
a household during my lifetime (I've seen bedpans, and I've seen
ashtrays and bottles used as tobacco receptacles).
Cheryl - 28 Jan 2010 11:11 GMT
>>> On 27 Jan 2010, Cheryl wrote
>>>> Oddly enough, I never thought of calling the children's version a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> so perhaps those posh, luxurious mansions and penthouses which I've
> never visited are all furnished with fine-quality spitoons.

I'd always assumed that a spittoon was a household item one or two
hundred years ago in the kind of English country house in which the
ladies withdrew to some kind of sitting room after dinner, leaving the
gentlemen to their brandy and cigars. I assumed that of course a
spittoon would be provided for the gentlemen.

I don't know this, though. My extremely rare visits to such luxurious
mansions all came much later, and after payment of a fee. I don't recall
the guides saying anything about spittoons.

I knew the word from a very young age, since my father taught me to sing
'Toreador! Don't spit on the floor! Use the cuspidor, that's what it's
for!' and of course I asked what the strange words meant.

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Cheryl

HVS - 28 Jan 2010 11:32 GMT
On 28 Jan 2010, Cheryl wrote

re: spittoon

> I knew the word from a very young age, since my father taught me
> to sing 'Toreador! Don't spit on the floor! Use the cuspidor,
> that's what it's for!' and of course I asked what the strange
> words meant.

That reminds me of a non-PC, dumb-French-guy joke when I was young,
which revolved around a fellow in a bar taking on a bet as to there
being three doors in the room rather than just one.  He loses when
it's pointed out that there's the entrance door;  that his name's
LaPorte, which makes another one;  and that there's a cuspidor in the
room.  He admits defeat and tries the bet on someone else, but screws
up when he can't recall the word for the third "door", calls it a
"spittoon", and loses the bet again.

No, it's not a very funny joke -- but it did teach me the words
"spittoon" and "cuspidor".

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Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed

Mike Lyle - 01 Feb 2010 15:50 GMT
[...]

> No, it's not a very funny joke -- but it did teach me the words
> "spittoon" and "cuspidor".

Revolting, but preferable to something yet more revolting. The Navy used
to call them "spitkids", and Jolly Jack was justly celebrated for the
accuracy of his expectorations.

Somebody's war reminiscences told of his squad being billeted in a
Cambridge college (am I remembering right?). One day, the corporal
announced that he'd received complaints: "It appears as how there's been
too much gobbin' goin' on. If you _must_ gob, _step_ on it!"

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Chuck Riggs - 02 Feb 2010 12:26 GMT
>[...]
>>
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>to call them "spitkids", and Jolly Jack was justly celebrated for the
>accuracy of his expectorations.

As it happens, I started in on Dana's _Two Years Before the Mast_
yesterday, a book with some bedeviling terms, even for someone who
claims to have some knowledge of the sea.
I hope I don't find it, it is so disgusting a word, but I'll keep a
weather eye out for "spitkids".
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Chuck Riggs,
An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE

tony cooper - 28 Jan 2010 14:36 GMT
>I knew the word from a very young age, since my father taught me to sing
>'Toreador! Don't spit on the floor! Use the cuspidor, that's what it's
>for!' and of course I asked what the strange words meant.

I heard "Toreador-a don't spit on the floor-a! Use the cuspidor-a,
that's what it is for-a!".  The "a"s make it fit Bizet's music better.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Cheryl - 28 Jan 2010 14:46 GMT
>> I knew the word from a very young age, since my father taught me to sing
>> 'Toreador! Don't spit on the floor! Use the cuspidor, that's what it's
>> for!' and of course I asked what the strange words meant.
>
> I heard "Toreador-a don't spit on the floor-a! Use the cuspidor-a,
> that's what it is for-a!".  The "a"s make it fit Bizet's music better.

Google gives both versions. I don't remember adding an 'a', but it's
been a long time since I sang it.

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Cheryl

Richard Bollard - 02 Feb 2010 01:24 GMT
>> On 27 Jan 2010, Cheryl wrote
>>
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>
>Would Sir care to examine our range of fine-quality spitoons?

Laura, avert!

<singing>

Toreador
Now don't spit on the floor
Use the cuspidor
That's what its for.
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Richard Bollard
Canberra Australia

To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT.

Peter Moylan - 27 Jan 2010 22:34 GMT
> "Potty habits", a reference to the little plastic pots used in training
> small children, means habits involving excretion or urination.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> chamber pot is large, old-fashioned, made of pottery, probably decorated
> with a floral design, and accompanied by a matching bowl for washing.

And placed under the bed in such a position that one will collide with
it after falling out of bed.

(I'm recalling an unpleasant childhood memory here.)

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Mark Brader - 28 Jan 2010 09:31 GMT
Cheryl Perkins:
> "Potty habits", a reference to the little plastic pots used in training
> small children, means habits involving excretion or urination.

"Potty" is also often used to refer to an actual toilet, as mock-childlike
language and I presume also with actual children.
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