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LFS - 27 Jan 2010 17:48 GMT
I am reading "Generosity" by Richard Powers, a novelist who I much
admire for his breadth of scientific, musical literary knowledge. I'm
sure I miss many of the allusions in his work but I find myself swept
along by the ideas, although his characters are sometimes cypher-like.

I find that his writing style can be quite challenging and his choice of
words is sometimes startling. This sentence has just jumped off the page
at me: "They creep back to Candace's through three lapidary blocks." He
is describing people out on the streets of Chicago in an ice storm where
the streets are like glass but his use of lapidary, while evocative,
strikes me as all wrong. Or perhaps he is using lapidary in the bee
sense and referring to apartment blocks? Perhaps I should write and ask him.

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Jerry Friedman - 27 Jan 2010 18:37 GMT
> I am reading "Generosity" by Richard Powers,

*shuffles through memory* Oh, not Tim Powers.

> a novelist who I much
> admire for his breadth of scientific, musical literary knowledge.

Hm.  Maybe I should try him.

> I'm
> sure I miss many of the allusions in his work but I find myself swept
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> strikes me as all wrong. Or perhaps he is using lapidary in the bee
> sense and referring to apartment blocks? Perhaps I should write and ask him.

Maybe it's this sense from M-W: "2b : of, relating to, or suggestive
of precious stones or the art of cutting them".  Everything looks like
jewels.

What seems wrong about it?

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Jerry Friedman
LFS - 27 Jan 2010 18:55 GMT
>> I am reading "Generosity" by Richard Powers,
>
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>
> Hm.  Maybe I should try him.

He may be an acquired taste, I've never met anyone else who has read and
enjoyed his stuff. "The Time of Our Singing" is probably the most
straightforward (a very big book!). "The Gold Bug Variations" and
"Galatea 2.2" are two I'll get round to rereading at some point.

>> I'm
>> sure I miss many of the allusions in his work but I find myself swept
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>
> What seems wrong about it?

Possibly. Perhaps it's the conjunction with blocks that looks odd to me,
being a Rightpondian.

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Cheryl - 27 Jan 2010 19:03 GMT
>>> I am reading "Generosity" by Richard Powers,
>>
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> Possibly. Perhaps it's the conjunction with blocks that looks odd to me,
> being a Rightpondian.

If the blocks have just endured an ice storm, I can see the 'jewel'
sense of the word. It's more commonly noticed on trees and bushes, but a
thin layer of ice on anything can glitter like diamonds.

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Jerry Friedman - 28 Jan 2010 06:45 GMT
> >>> I am reading "Generosity" by Richard Powers,
>
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> > straightforward (a very big book!). "The Gold Bug Variations" and
> > "Galatea 2.2" are two I'll get round to rereading at some point.
...

They exist, though.  At least, somebody gave him a National Book
Award.

> >>> I find that his writing style can be quite challenging and his choice of
> >>> words is sometimes startling. This sentence has just jumped off the page
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> > Possibly. Perhaps it's the conjunction with blocks that looks odd to me,
> > being a Rightpondian.

Since you speak American, I don't have to tell you it's a distance,
not blocks of flats.  (But I might have to tell some here.)

> If the blocks have just endured an ice storm, I can see the 'jewel'
> sense of the word. It's more commonly noticed on trees and bushes, but a
> thin layer of ice on anything can glitter like diamonds.

Indeed.  I think it's "a space of three blocks in which everything was
glittering like diamonds".

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Jerry Friedman
James Hogg - 28 Jan 2010 07:16 GMT
>>>>> I am reading "Generosity" by Richard Powers,
>>>> *shuffles through memory* Oh, not Tim Powers.
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> Indeed.  I think it's "a space of three blocks in which everything was
> glittering like diamonds".

Or "not yet dilapidated".

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John Varela - 27 Jan 2010 19:00 GMT
> I find that his writing style can be quite challenging and his choice of
> words is sometimes startling. This sentence has just jumped off the page
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> strikes me as all wrong. Or perhaps he is using lapidary in the bee
> sense and referring to apartment blocks? Perhaps I should write and ask him.
Could he be saying that the ice is sparkling and jewel-like?

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LFS - 27 Jan 2010 19:02 GMT
>> I find that his writing style can be quite challenging and his choice of
>> words is sometimes startling. This sentence has just jumped off the page
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>  
> Could he be saying that the ice is sparkling and jewel-like?

Yes, that's want I meant by evocative but it's not quite the precise
definition of the adjectival use of the word. Unusual for this author.

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R H Draney - 28 Jan 2010 00:07 GMT
LFS filted:

>I find that his writing style can be quite challenging and his choice of
>words is sometimes startling. This sentence has just jumped off the page
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>strikes me as all wrong. Or perhaps he is using lapidary in the bee
>sense and referring to apartment blocks? Perhaps I should write and ask him.

I know that New York and Los Angeles each has a recognizable "diamond
district"...does Chicago?...r

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A pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?

Eric Walker - 28 Jan 2010 01:49 GMT
Re: "They creep back to Candace's through three lapidary blocks."

AHD: _adj_ Sharply or finely delineated: 'a face with lapidary features'.

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Jerry Friedman - 28 Jan 2010 06:37 GMT
> Re: "They creep back to Candace's through three lapidary blocks."
>
> AHD: _adj_ Sharply or finely delineated: 'a face with lapidary features'.

More likely AHD: "Of or relating to precious stones or the art of
working with them."

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Jerry Friedman
Eric Walker - 28 Jan 2010 09:33 GMT
>> Re: "They creep back to Candace's through three lapidary blocks."
>>
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> More likely AHD: "Of or relating to precious stones or the art of
> working with them."

I don't see that there's much to say which sense was felt by the author,
but I daresay that both seem to apply is some modest testimonial to his
skills.

In any event, the OP seemed unsure that there was any applicable sense.

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Jerry Friedman - 29 Jan 2010 18:43 GMT
> >> Re: "They creep back to Candace's through threelapidaryblocks."
>
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>
> I don't see that there's much to say which sense was felt by the author,

An ice storm makes things look like cabochon jewels, not like
monumental carved stone.  The comparison is unoriginal, which is
probably why he made it in such a terse way.

> but I daresay that both seem to apply is some modest testimonial to his
> skills.
...

I went down the garden path of "I daresay that both seem to apply",
and I thought you'd made some kind of error.  But now I see that "that
both seem to apply" is the subject of "is", and the relative "that"
after "daresay" is omitted.

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Jerry Friedman
 
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