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Peter Moylan filted:
>A news item this evening told me that Apple's iPad was the new solution
>for menstrual flow. ( I gather that Apple has since come up with a less
>embarrassing name, but my TV station hasn't yet received that news.)
>There was not a single mention of the fact that other suppliers had
>released their book readers long ago.
Well, of course the reports you get are biased...there's nothing between you and
Cupertino but open sea....r

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> A news item this evening told me that Apple's iPad was the new solution
> for menstrual flow. ( I gather that Apple has since come up with a less
> embarrassing name, but my TV station hasn't yet received that news.)
> There was not a single mention of the fact that other suppliers had
> released their book readers long ago.
The iPad is a book reader in the same sense in which a desktop computer
is a typewriter.
> I recall a time when IBM was using unfair business practices to dominate
> the market. At a later stage, IBM was the victim of Microsoft's unfair
> business practices. Google then tried to kill off Microsoft, but failed.
> It now appears that Apple's iStuff will let it become the new evil
> monster.
ObUsage: future tense? If you like closed and proprietary systems and
software with your Kool-aid, Apple has a app for that today. (At least
they give more than lip service to open file formats and protocols,
unlike You-Know-Who.)

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 28 Jan 2010 13:26 GMT
>> A news item this evening told me that Apple's iPad was the new solution
>> for menstrual flow. ( I gather that Apple has since come up with a less
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>The iPad is a book reader in the same sense in which a desktop computer
>is a typewriter.
Pedantry:
The user of an iPad is the reader. An iPad is a book storage and display
device.
>> I recall a time when IBM was using unfair business practices to dominate
>> the market. At a later stage, IBM was the victim of Microsoft's unfair
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>they give more than lip service to open file formats and protocols,
>unlike You-Know-Who.)

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R H Draney - 28 Jan 2010 19:19 GMT
BrE filted:
>>The iPad is a book reader in the same sense in which a desktop computer
>>is a typewriter.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>The user of an iPad is the reader. An iPad is a book storage and display
>device.
If I get one and download McGuffey to it, and the text turns out to be too
small, this reader would have to wear my readers to read the Reader on the
reader....r

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JimboCat - 05 Feb 2010 18:06 GMT
> BrE filted:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> small, this reader would have to wear my readers to read the Reader on the
> reader....r
Well, then, just wait for the upgrade to the super wide-screen
MAXiPad.
Jim Deutch (JimboCat)
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Fred - 28 Jan 2010 20:18 GMT
>> A news item this evening told me that Apple's iPad was the new solution
>> for menstrual flow. ( I gather that Apple has since come up with a less
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> they give more than lip service to open file formats and protocols,
> unlike You-Know-Who.)
....an app ......
Roland Hutchinson - 29 Jan 2010 04:27 GMT
>>> A news item this evening told me that Apple's iPad was the new
>>> solution for menstrual flow. ( I gather that Apple has since come up
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> ....an app ......
I think I need a nap.

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Garrett Wollman - 30 Jan 2010 07:26 GMT
>ObUsage: future tense? If you like closed and proprietary systems and
>software with your Kool-aid, Apple has a app for that today. (At least
>they give more than lip service to open file formats and protocols,
>unlike You-Know-Who.)
I sit here this evening in Millbrae, California, just a few miles up
highway 101 from the Realiity Distortion Zone in Cupertino. None of
the people I've talked to in the past two days have been remotely
impressed. Steve may have his first loser in a while on his hands.
This could be the Newton for the 21st Century.
-GAWollman
(composed, somewhat painfully, in Emacs, over SSH, on my Motorola
Droid)

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Roland Hutchinson - 03 Feb 2010 17:39 GMT
>>ObUsage: future tense? If you like closed and proprietary systems and
>>software with your Kool-aid, Apple has a app for that today. (At least
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Steve may have his first loser in a while on his hands. This could be
> the Newton for the 21st Century.
I have noticed that the word "Newton" has been conspicuously absent, not
only in Apple's publicity (as might be expected), but also in the press
coverage of the iPad.
But it's truly a descendant of the Newton, as ought to be obvious to
anyone:
Newton begat the PDA as a product category.
The PDA begat (in the fullness of time) the smartphone.
The smartphone begat the iPhone.
The iPad runs the iPhone OS.
> -GAWollman
> (composed, somewhat painfully, in Emacs, over SSH, on my Motorola Droid)
I feel your pain.

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R H Draney - 04 Feb 2010 00:37 GMT
Roland Hutchinson filted:
>Newton begat the PDA as a product category.
>The PDA begat (in the fullness of time) the smartphone.
>The smartphone begat the iPhone.
>The iPad runs the iPhone OS.
That second step managed to exceed even Roddenberry's vision...The Great Bird Of
The Galaxy foresaw tricorders and communicators, but he never thought to combine
them into a single device....r

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Mark Brader - 04 Feb 2010 20:26 GMT
Roland Hutchinson:
>> Newton begat the PDA as a product category.
>> The PDA begat (in the fullness of time) the smartphone.
>> The smartphone begat the iPhone.
>> The iPad runs the iPhone OS.
R.H. Draney:
> That second step managed to exceed even Roddenberry's vision...The
> Great Bird Of The Galaxy foresaw tricorders and communicators, but
> he never thought to combine them into a single device.
On the other hand, if Spock or Scotty had a bit of time to open up one
of them and tinker with the wiring, either one could be turned into
almost anything...

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R H Draney - 04 Feb 2010 20:41 GMT
Mark Brader filted:
>Roland Hutchinson:
>>> Newton begat the PDA as a product category.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>of them and tinker with the wiring, either one could be turned into
>almost anything...
Wiring?...I thought the innards of trektek ran on nanobots....r

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 04 Feb 2010 02:29 GMT
> I have noticed that the word "Newton" has been conspicuously absent,
> not only in Apple's publicity (as might be expected), but also in
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> The smartphone begat the iPhone.
> The iPad runs the iPhone OS.
As one who actually played with a GO tablet around 1990 and who still
has the PenPoint OS[1] documentation in his office, I think you may be
giving Apple a bit too much credit.
[1] Slogan: "You already know how to use it."

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> A news item this evening told me that Apple's iPad was the new solution
> for menstrual flow. ( I gather that Apple has since come up with a less
> embarrassing name, but my TV station hasn't yet received that news.)
> There was not a single mention of the fact that other suppliers had
> released their book readers long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs
I heard of this skit on an NPR Technology podcast in the past day or
two.

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