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Marius Hancu - 31 Jan 2010 00:33 GMT
Hello:

"Get with"
does it mean
"go on with/continue with"
or
"start working on?"

----
Tool promptly clouted him in the head and told him to get with the
damn program.

Carl Hiaasen, Skinny Dip, p. 235
----
--
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
sjdevnull@yahoo.com - 31 Jan 2010 01:23 GMT
> Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Carl Hiaasen, Skinny Dip, p. 235

"Get with the program" is an idiomatic phrase.  It means "get your act
together", or roughly "stop screwing around and get serious", or
""knock off the nonsense and focus on what matters".

It can be used about a transient issue.  Suppose we're running late
for an appointment, and my brother is supposed to be getting ready to
leave the house.  If he's goofing off playing video games instead of
getting ready, I might tell him to get with the program and get his
shoes on.

It can also be used about a more serious chronic issue--if a friend
who has kids is out every night partying and neglecting them, I might
tell her she needs to get with the program and start being a good
mother.

My guess would be that the phrase comes from the word "program" in the
sense of "a plan or system under which action may be taken toward a
goal".  In the speaker's mind, there's a program that we're supposed
to be following--the person being addressed isn't doing so, so the
speaker exhorts them to "get with the program".
Marius Hancu - 31 Jan 2010 01:30 GMT
On Jan 30, 8:23 pm, "sjdevn...@yahoo.com" <sjdevn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > "Get with"
> > does it mean
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> together", or roughly "stop screwing around and get serious", or
> ""knock off the nonsense and focus on what matters".

Ah, OK.

Thank you.
Marius Hancu
the Omrud - 31 Jan 2010 09:43 GMT
> On Jan 30, 8:23 pm, "sjdevn...@yahoo.com"<sjdevn...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Ah, OK.

And of course in BrE, where the term is recognised but not common, it
would be "programme".  It's not computer code.

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CDB - 31 Jan 2010 15:51 GMT
>> "sjdevn...@yahoo.com"<sjdevn...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>>> "Get with"
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> And of course in BrE, where the term is recognised but not common,
> it would be "programme".  It's not computer code.

I was thinking the BrE would be "Do keep up."
tony cooper - 31 Jan 2010 16:27 GMT
>>> "sjdevn...@yahoo.com"<sjdevn...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>>>> "Get with"
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>>
>I was thinking the BrE would be "Do keep up."

"Do keep up" isn't a bad comparison.  "Get with the program" doesn't
necessarily mean "start conforming to this new program".  It is
usually used to encourage someone to follow the program, and it can be
a program that the person is already following, but not following the
right way.

It should be pointed out that the "program" isn't necessarily a
defined plan.  "Get with the program" just means "start doing things
right".

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Pat Durkin - 31 Jan 2010 22:39 GMT
>>>> "sjdevn...@yahoo.com"<sjdevn...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> "Get with"
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> defined plan.  "Get with the program" just means "start doing things
> right".

Translate "right" as "our way (or the highway)".
Mark Brader - 01 Feb 2010 22:19 GMT
Tony Cooper:
> > It should be pointed out that the "program" isn't necessarily a
> > defined plan.  "Get with the program" just means "start doing things
> > right".

Pat Durkin:
> Translate "right" as "our way (or the highway)".

Captain Queeg (in "The Caine Mutiny", the movie adapted from the novel
by Herman Wouk), quoted from memory:

| There are four ways to do things: the right way, the wrong way,
| the Navy way, and my way.  On this ship, you do things my way and
| we'll get along fine.
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Mark Brader            "'A matter of opinion'[?]  I have to say you are
Toronto                  right.  There['s] your opinion, which is wrong,
msb@vex.net              and mine, which is right."  -- Gene Ward Smith

John Holmes - 31 Jan 2010 02:05 GMT
> My guess would be that the phrase comes from the word "program" in the
> sense of "a plan or system under which action may be taken toward a
> goal".  In the speaker's mind, there's a program that we're supposed
> to be following--the person being addressed isn't doing so, so the
> speaker exhorts them to "get with the program".

It's not a common expression here, but I've heard it occasionally. I
assumed it was a reference to some of those 12-step programs.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 31 Jan 2010 11:56 GMT
>> My guess would be that the phrase comes from the word "program" in the
>> sense of "a plan or system under which action may be taken toward a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>It's not a common expression here, but I've heard it occasionally. I
>assumed it was a reference to some of those 12-step programs.

That is apparently one possibility:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/24/messages/1182.html

    Posted by ESC on October 11, 2003
   
   In Reply to: Get with the Program! posted by Brian from Shawnee on
   October 10, 2003
   
   : I first heard this expression in 1982. I believe it was used by
   members of addiction recovery groups to encourage new members to
   stick to the recovery plan.
   
   I don't know which came first the use of "program" for
   recovery/support groups or the following.
   
   PROGRAM - "Promoting something for one's personal benefit." The
   Mainstream 1960s. From "Flappers 2 Rappers: American Youth Slang" by
   Tom Dalzell (Merriam-Webster Inc., Springfield, Md., 1996)
   
   "1) A verbal strategy, a scheme or plan of verbal action for
   handling any situation. 'Girlfriend working her program.' Similar to
   'game,' in the sense of a story or 'rap' used to obtain a desired
   end. However, runnin a program can be positive or negative, whereas
   runnin a game is deceptive and manipulative.
   2) The established routine or pattern of something - an
   organization, an event, an activity, etc. 'Yo, git wit the program,
   baby!' (said to a member of an aerobics class who has slowed down
   during an exercise session).
   3) The way you operate, your life style, your way of doing things.
   'Any dude that ain wit my program can go right back where he came
   from cause I'm not havin it.'" From "Black Talk: Words and Phrases
   from the Hood to the Amen Corner" by Geneva Smitherman (Houghton
   Mifflin Co., New York, N.Y., 1994)

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Jerry Friedman - 01 Feb 2010 02:46 GMT
On Jan 31, 4:56 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
wrote:

> >sjdevn...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>     from the Hood to the Amen Corner" by Geneva Smitherman (Houghton
>     Mifflin Co., New York, N.Y., 1994)

The early hits at GB are from the U.S. military.

"I want every man in this detachment to get with the program. Let's
end up big!"

[What?]

Robin Moore, /The Green Berets/, p. 129 (1965)

"...the sooner you people get with the program and realize this, the
sooner we can get together and work out things."

SP4 James Lopez, letter to the editor of /Ebony/ (Oct. 1965).  "SP4"
means he held the rank of Specialist Four in the Army.

http://books.google.com/books?id=O94DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA11#v=onepage&q=&f=false

"So, troops, let's get with the program. Isn't it time to go update
that summary
again?"

/Aerospace Safety/, published by the U.S. Dept. of the Air Force,
Volumes 19-20, snippet view but quite likely from 1963 as stated.

On Civvy Street, there's one from an advertising consultant that can't
be much later, as it's about advertising meant for "Negroes".

"An advocate of what he likes to call 'reaching the deep grass roots,'
Graham
advises advertisers to 'get with the program.'"

/Tide: The Newsmagazine for Advertising Executives/

http://books.google.com/books?id=Pe9pzLUi6tkC&dq=%22get+with+the+program%22+date
:1800-1965&lr=&ei=IThmS-7oEp36ygTurJkn&client=firefox-a&cd=7


or http://tinyurl.com/yck4dkb

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Jerry Friedman
Default User - 01 Feb 2010 22:29 GMT
> The early hits at GB are from the U.S. military.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Robin Moore, /The Green Berets/, p. 129 (1965)

I always liked the one from Full Metal Jacket (set in that timeframe,
but made later, so it could be anachronistic):

Colonel: Whose side are you on, son?
Private Joker: Our side, sir.
Colonel: Don't you love your country?
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Colonel: Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on
the team and come on in for the big win?
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Colonel: Son, all I've ever asked of my marines is that they obey my
orders as they would the word of God.

Brian

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Cheryl - 02 Feb 2010 12:28 GMT
>> The early hits at GB are from the U.S. military.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Brian

The Colonel must have been completely unaware of how difficult most
people find it to obey the word of God.

Isn't that a perfect example of something that means the opposite of
what it appears to mean? You'd think that, as implied, everyone
instantly and completely obeys the word of God, and will therefore do
the same for the word of the Colonel. But in fact, as anyone who tries
to practice a religion could tell the Colonel, it's a lot easier to
disobey than obey the word of God.

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tony cooper - 31 Jan 2010 01:58 GMT
>Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>or
>"start working on?"

More like "get on board"..."join in".

>----
>Tool promptly clouted him in the head and told him to get with the
>damn program.
>
>Carl Hiaasen, Skinny Dip, p. 235
>----

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