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Tacia - 03 Feb 2010 19:25 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen:

Considering the following:
    There are many eateries, a library, a post office, a few
convenience stores, photocopy stores, and grocery stores in the
neighborhood.

--

Apart from specifying what are in the neighborhood, are the brief
expressions that I can use to fill in the blanks in the following
sentences to mean that life is convenient where I live?

I live in close proximity to _______.
_______ are convenient from the apartment building.

Best Wishes,
Tacia
Mark Brader - 03 Feb 2010 19:40 GMT
"Tacia":
> Considering the following:
>      There are many eateries, a library, a post office, a few
> convenience stores, photocopy stores, and grocery stores in the
> neighborhood.
...
> I live in close proximity to _______.
> _______ are convenient from the apartment building.

I'd say "stores and services" or "shops and services".
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Cheryl - 03 Feb 2010 19:43 GMT
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
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> Best Wishes,
> Tacia

I think the most common way to say that would be to list the categories.

I suppose you could say close to many amenities or services.

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Tacia - 03 Feb 2010 19:49 GMT
Mark Brader wrote:

> I'd say "stores and services" or "shops and services".

--

> I think the most common way to say that would be to list the categories.
>
> I suppose you could say close to many amenities or services.

Thank you for the swift replies!

Tacia
Nick - 03 Feb 2010 19:56 GMT
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
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> I live in close proximity to _______.
> _______ are convenient from the apartment building.

I don't really like "are convenient from" although I find it hard to
formalise my objections.  "The apartment building is convenient for
_____________________" I find entirely blameless.
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sjdevnull@yahoo.com - 03 Feb 2010 20:39 GMT
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> I live in close proximity to _______.
> _______ are convenient from the apartment building.

I think "____ are convenient to the apartment building" is more
common.  "convenient from" sounds odd to me.
Eric Walker - 03 Feb 2010 23:55 GMT
[...]

> I live in close proximity to . . . .

Despite the astounding ubiquity of that phrase, I have as yet--search as
I may--not been able to find any variety of proximity that is not close.

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R H Draney - 04 Feb 2010 00:08 GMT
Eric Walker filted:

>[...]
>
>> I live in close proximity to . . . .
>
>Despite the astounding ubiquity of that phrase, I have as yet--search as
>I may--not been able to find any variety of proximity that is not close.

It's a matter of degree, innit...there's "close proximity", "very close
proximity", "not-so-close proximity", etc....

Like the varieties of beer Rainier used to market back in the late 60s: "Light",
"Light Light" and "Not So Light"....r

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 04 Feb 2010 02:25 GMT
> [...]
>
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> yet--search as I may--not been able to find any variety of proximity
> that is not close.

How did you search?  Looking in Google Books, I see 288 published hits
for "moderate proximity", 47 for "medium proximity", 406 for "distant
proximity", and 155 for "far proximity".  And, of course, 1,196 for
"near proximity"

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James Hogg - 04 Feb 2010 08:22 GMT
>> [...]
>>
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> proximity", and 155 for "far proximity".  And, of course, 1,196 for
> "near proximity"

You can even find "distant proximity" (along with "low height", "young
age", "short length").

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erilar - 04 Feb 2010 22:04 GMT
> > [...]
> >
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> proximity", and 155 for "far proximity".  And, of course, 1,196 for
> "near proximity"

Google is your ultimate authority for questions of this sort?  ?  ?

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James Hogg - 04 Feb 2010 22:20 GMT
>>> [...]
>>>
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>
> Google is your ultimate authority for questions of this sort?  ?  ?

Google gives you a good - albeit often sometimes frightening - idea of what
people actually write.

Google Books, which what Evan was talking about, gives you a good idea
of what gets into print.

The quotations that illustrate definitions in the OED follow a similar
principle, but Google Books gives a more comprehensive coverage of
actual usage. Very useful for antedating OED examples or for finding
things the editors of the OED missed.

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Jerry Friedman - 04 Feb 2010 22:33 GMT
> > [...]
>
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> proximity", and 155 for "far proximity".  And, of course, 1,196 for
> "near proximity"

Even so, I'd like "I live close to..." much better than "I live in
close proximity too..."

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Jerry Friedman
Chuck Riggs - 04 Feb 2010 15:41 GMT
>Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
>Considering the following:
>     There are many eateries, a library, a post office, a few
>convenience stores, photocopy stores, and grocery stores in the
>neighborhood.

I suggest "I live downtown".
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R H Draney - 04 Feb 2010 18:16 GMT
Chuck Riggs filted:

>>     There are many eateries, a library, a post office, a few
>>convenience stores, photocopy stores, and grocery stores in the
>>neighborhood.
>
>I suggest "I live downtown".

When I first moved to Phoenix, "downtown" was the area where any such places
closed down promptly at 5pm, and there were no convenience stores or grocery
stores....r

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sjdevnull@yahoo.com - 04 Feb 2010 20:39 GMT
> Chuck Riggs filted:
>
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> closed down promptly at 5pm, and there were no convenience stores or grocery
> stores....r

That's definitely the case in some very large cities still.  You're a
lot better off in many other parts of Los Angeles than the downtown
area for such conveniences.
Chuck Riggs - 06 Feb 2010 12:34 GMT
>> Chuck Riggs filted:
>>
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>lot better off in many other parts of Los Angeles than the downtown
>area for such conveniences.

The flight of businesses from downtown American towns and cities, as
they migrate into nearby shopping centres and beyond, is a
well-documented pity. To their credit, IMO, most Irish towns and
cities have retained their downtowns, with adequate public
transportation.
In both Westport and Dublin, where I lived, a car would have been a
nice-to-have at times, but I never found one to be a necessity.
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Default User - 04 Feb 2010 20:38 GMT
> > Ladies and Gentlemen:
> >
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>
> I suggest "I live downtown".

Is it necessary to live downtown to get such amenities? I would think a
few handy shopping centers and such could easily provide them.

Brian

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