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tony cooper - 04 Feb 2010 06:09 GMT
DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
Washington and Sarah Palin, darling of America's conservatives, will
help lead the charge.

It's the lead para at:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61256520100203

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Jerry Friedman - 04 Feb 2010 06:16 GMT
> DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
> week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61256520100203

Barely.  The Tea Party movement says Washington, DC, has a lot wrong
with it.  They're having a national convention to take aim at all
that.  Sarah Palin will help lead the charge.

I like "all that is wrong with Washington and Sarah Palin".  Speaking
of which, I like to think that there are some conservatives who SP
isn't the darling of.

--
Jerry Friedman was tempted to write, "whose darling SP isn't."
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 04 Feb 2010 12:27 GMT
>> DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
>> week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>of which, I like to think that there are some conservatives who SP
>isn't the darling of.

"Washington and Sarah Palin ... will help lead the charge".

Washington has come back to life after 200+ years? Things must be bad.

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Prai Jei - 04 Feb 2010 19:24 GMT
Jerry Friedman set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

> Barely.  The Tea Party movement says Washington, DC, has a lot wrong
> with it.  They're having a national convention to take aim at all
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> of which, I like to think that there are some conservatives who SP
> isn't the darling of.

The UK mind still boggles. I thought the Tea Party had been in Boston, but
no mention of the place.
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tony cooper - 04 Feb 2010 19:31 GMT
>Jerry Friedman set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
>continuum:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>The UK mind still boggles. I thought the Tea Party had been in Boston, but
>no mention of the place.

The origin of the term "Tea Party", attached to a modern US political
movement, is based on that event in Boston.  The members are revolting
against an oppressive government.  In my opinion, a revolting group by
another definition.

 
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 04 Feb 2010 19:58 GMT
>Jerry Friedman set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
>continuum:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>The UK mind still boggles. I thought the Tea Party had been in Boston, but
>no mention of the place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

   The Tea Party movement is a United States protest movement that
   emerged in 2009 and is opposed to the federal government's stimulus
   package, officially known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment
   Act of 2009.
   
   The movement originated in libertarian anti-tax protests and arose
   in response to the increase in the national debt as a result of the
   stimulus package, as well as the reaction to increases in home
   mortgage foreclosures despite TARP bailout money paid to the
   banks. It grew dramatically after revelations about the bonuses paid
   to AIG executives in March 2009 and has been most visible through
   the Tea Party protests of 2009. Protesters have also utilized the
   social networking outlets Twitter, My Space, Facebook as well as
   blogs in promoting Tax Day events.
   
   The name "Tea Party" is a reference to the Boston Tea Party, whose
   principal aim was to protest taxation without representation. Tea
   Party protests have sought to evoke similar images, slogans, and
   themes.
   <etc.>

ObAUE: There is a section in that article about allegations of
"astroturfing" a term which is defined here:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/astroturfing

   Etymology
   
   From AstroTurf, as a wordplay on "grass roots", as astroturfing is
   intended to give the impression of grass-roots campaigns.
   
   astroturfing (uncountable)
   
   1. (US) The disguising of an orchestrated campaign as a spontaneous
   upwelling of public opinion.

And here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

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Garrett Wollman - 04 Feb 2010 21:17 GMT
>ObAUE: There is a section in that article about allegations of
>"astroturfing" a term which is defined here:
>http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/astroturfing

>    1. (US) The disguising of an orchestrated campaign as a spontaneous
>    upwelling of public opinion.

And in the case of the Tea Party types, a lot of the orchestration is
being done by Rupert Murdoch and his henchmen[1].

-GAWollman

[1] And henchwomen?  Is there such a thing?

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 04 Feb 2010 22:28 GMT
>>ObAUE: There is a section in that article about allegations of
>>"astroturfing" a term which is defined here:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>[1] And henchwomen?  Is there such a thing?

Henchwenches?

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Prai Jei - 07 Feb 2010 19:17 GMT
Peter Duncanson (BrE) set the following eddies spiralling through the
space-time continuum:

>>>ObAUE: There is a section in that article about allegations of
>>>"astroturfing" a term which is defined here:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Henchwenches?

There must be female cockroaches. Why aren't they called henroaches?
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Roland Hutchinson - 10 Feb 2010 15:39 GMT
> Peter Duncanson (BrE) set the following eddies spiralling through the
> space-time continuum:
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>
> There must be female cockroaches. Why aren't they called henroaches?

ObGenAmE: For the same reason that male anteaters aren't called
uncleeaters?

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Roland Hutchinson       

He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba,"
... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy.
--Newark (NJ) Star Ledger  ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ )

Athel Cornish-Bowden - 04 Feb 2010 07:59 GMT
> DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
> week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> It's the lead para at:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61256520100203

Well, it needs a couple of retakes to understand, but it's more clumsy
and inelegant than grammatically wrong.

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Skitt - 04 Feb 2010 18:24 GMT
> tony cooper said:

>> DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
>> week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Well, it needs a couple of retakes to understand, but it's more clumsy
> and inelegant than grammatically wrong.

Well, there is that glaring lack of a comma after "Washington".
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Roland Hutchinson - 10 Feb 2010 15:41 GMT
>> tony cooper said:
>  
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Well, there is that glaring lack of a comma after "Washington".

Any raucous movement with the guts to criticize both George Washington
and Sarah Palin is okay by me!

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Roland Hutchinson       

He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba,"
... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy.
--Newark (NJ) Star Ledger  ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ )

the Omrud - 04 Feb 2010 09:29 GMT
> DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
> week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> It's the lead para at:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61256520100203

The first national Tea Party convention meets this
week to take aim at all [that] the raucous movement says is wrong with
Washington; and Sarah Palin, darling of America's conservatives, will
help lead the charge.

One semi-colon fixes it sufficiently to make it comprehensible.  An
additional [that] adds a little more.

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Eric Walker - 04 Feb 2010 09:52 GMT
> DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
> week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
> Washington and Sarah Palin, darling of America's conservatives, will
> help lead the charge.

  The first national Tea Party convention meets this week to take aim at
  all the raucous movement says is wrong with Washington[,] and Sarah
  Palin, darling of America's conservatives, will help lead the charge.

There are other and better ways of recasting, but that is the simplest.

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John Dean - 04 Feb 2010 14:37 GMT
> DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
> week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
> Washington and Sarah Palin, darling of America's conservatives, will
> help lead the charge.

Make sense of it? Sure. It's like those magic eye pictures that were so
popular in the 80s. Ya need ta squint and tilt the page sideways. A little
punctuation resolves this one.
But I'm disappointed with Reuters. Old Paul will be turning in his grave
and, if he was still alive, Edward G would be regretting playing him in the
movie.
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Mark Brader - 04 Feb 2010 19:40 GMT
> Subject: Can you make sense of this?

Yes, we can.
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John - 08 Feb 2010 03:42 GMT
> DALLAS (Reuters) - The first national Tea Party convention meets this
> week to take aim at all the raucous movement says is wrong with
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Sentence sounds a bit incoherent, but I get the gist.
 
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