In our last episode,
<4f1ee6bb-36fc-404c-852c-84eb613fb0b9@19g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented Marius Hancu
broadcast on alt.usage.english:
> Hello:
> I imagine "'ll" is a contraction for "until/till," right?
Yes.
> Informal speech, I guess.
Yes.
> ----
> "And wait'll he finds the lipstick!"
> Carl Hiaasen, Skinny Dip, p. 85
> ----
> --
> Thanks.
> Marius Hancu

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Marius Hancu - 05 Feb 2010 08:16 GMT
> > I imagine "'ll" is a contraction for "until/till," right?
>
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> > "And wait'll he finds the lipstick!"
> > Carl Hiaasen, Skinny Dip, p. 85
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Donna Richoux - 05 Feb 2010 14:16 GMT
> > > I imagine "'ll" is a contraction for "until/till," right?
> >
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> > > "And wait'll he finds the lipstick!"
> > > Carl Hiaasen, Skinny Dip, p. 85
"Wait'll you" has 2 million web hits, followed by see, hear, meet, get,
etc.
Marius,
This might be a good time to tell you about 'chew'. Many people say
"I want chew" etc. Wait'll you hear "Messiah" and the tenor sings
"Comfort chee" instead of "Comfort ye". It's a lazy tongue habit of
many of Americans.
It's almost as bad as "neck shear" for "next year".
Vacating soapbox now.
Marius Hancu - 06 Feb 2010 15:32 GMT
> This might be a good time to tell you about 'chew'. Many people say
> "I want chew" etc. Wait'll you hear "Messiah" and the tenor sings
> "Comfort chee" instead of "Comfort ye". It's a lazy tongue habit of
> many of Americans.
>
> It's almost as bad as "neck shear" for "next year".
I think I can hear those sometimes:-)
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Roland Hutchinson - 07 Feb 2010 05:08 GMT
>> This might be a good time to tell you about 'chew'. Many people say "I
>> want chew" etc. Wait'll you hear "Messiah" and the tenor sings
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>
> I think I can hear those sometimes:-)
But NB an extended version of Skitt's Law is in action here: "many of
Americans" ain't English. And I'm none too sure about "tongue habit".

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 07 Feb 2010 11:46 GMT
>>> This might be a good time to tell you about 'chew'. Many people say "I
>>> want chew" etc. Wait'll you hear "Messiah" and the tenor sings
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>But NB an extended version of Skitt's Law is in action here: "many of
>Americans" ain't English. And I'm none too sure about "tongue habit".
You've detached "tongue" from "lazy". I understand "lazy tongue" to mean
a careless and (grammatically or otherwise) incorrect manner of
speaking. "A lazy tongue habit" is a habit of speaking with "lazy
longue".
The phrase was much used by the currently-absent Purl Gurl.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 07 Feb 2010 12:24 GMT
>"A lazy tongue habit" is a habit of speaking with "lazy
>longue".
Er... "tongue". Typing with "lazy hand"?
"lazy longue" takes us into previously-explored chaise-longue territory.
Would a chaise-longue equipped with an internet connection, screen,
keyboard, etc. to enable the sending of newsgroup messages and emails be
a "post chaise"?

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Kalmia - 08 Feb 2010 20:12 GMT
> >> This might be a good time to tell you about 'chew'. Many people say "I
> >> wantchew" etc. Wait'll you hear "Messiah" and the tenor sings
> >> "Comfort chee" instead of "Comfort ye". It's a lazy tongue habit of
> >> many of Americans.
>
> >> It's almost as bad as "neck shear" for "next year".
> But NB an extended version of Skitt's Law is in action here: "many of
> Americans" ain't English. And I'm none too sure about "tongue habit".
AAAGH - you got me on that one. I didn't really mean "many OF
Americans". I knows better.
In ashes and sackcloth, I hang my head in shame.
Roland Hutchinson - 10 Feb 2010 05:36 GMT
>> >> This might be a good time to tell you about 'chew'. Many people say
>> >> "I wantchew" etc. Wait'll you hear "Messiah" and the tenor sings
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> Americans". I knows better.
> In ashes and sackcloth, I hang my head in shame.
It's okay, really! All of us here have done worse at one time or
another, I daresay--if not mistakes of grammar or construction (yclept
"performance errors" when made by native speakers), then surely of
editing or of typing. To say nothing of thinking...

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