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Masa - 08 Feb 2010 12:13 GMT
Recently I stick to cartoons' English.

Yea, I'm aware that it's the last thing learners challenge.

http://www.lightstriking.com/test/01.jpg

It's quite hard to grasp the whole thing.
It's all I could guess that it's talking about hat or cap.
And another point seems winter.

Characters seem ready for coming hard winter.

I don't know what this whole story is about.
Would you give me any hint?
Lars Eighner - 08 Feb 2010 12:48 GMT
In our last episode,
<f03f1696-0955-470c-9218-b734279a8b1a@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented Masa broadcast on alt.usage.english:

> Recently I stick to cartoons' English.

> Yea, I'm aware that it's the last thing learners challenge.

As with the previous cartoon, the problems here would seem to be more
about cultural context than about English.

> http://www.lightstriking.com/test/01.jpg

> It's quite hard to grasp the whole thing.
> It's all I could guess that it's talking about hat or cap.
> And another point seems winter.

> Characters seem ready for coming hard winter.

> I don't know what this whole story is about.
> Would you give me any hint?

These are all slight plays on folk beliefs.

A thick coat (fur) on a particular caterpillar called a Wooly Bear is
supposed to be a sign of hard winter.  This one not one has its thick fur,
but also has a cap.  Thus, this would seem to be a sign of an especially
hard winter.

Likewise, thick hair on the nape of the neck of cattle is supposed to be
sign of a hard winter.  This cow also has a cap and wishes for a blanket.
So this portends an even harder winter.

The last panel is a play on two senses of 'nut': seed of certain trees and
silly or crazy person.

This is not an especially funny cartoon.

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the Omrud - 08 Feb 2010 13:02 GMT
> In our last episode,
> <f03f1696-0955-470c-9218-b734279a8b1a@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, the
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> sign of a hard winter.  This cow also has a cap and wishes for a blanket.
> So this portends an even harder winter.

I'd never heard this one.

> The last panel is a play on two senses of 'nut': seed of certain trees and
> silly or crazy person.

Also slang for "head", which is what seems to be growing in the tree.  I
may be overanalysing it though.

> This is not an especially funny cartoon.

No kidding.

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Wood Avens - 08 Feb 2010 13:18 GMT
>> In our last episode,
>> <f03f1696-0955-470c-9218-b734279a8b1a@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, the
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
>No kidding.

I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
form the US, whom I didn't recognise.

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the Omrud - 08 Feb 2010 13:27 GMT
> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.

I thought the one at centre right was George Bush the Second.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 08 Feb 2010 13:37 GMT
>> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
>> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.
>
>I thought the one at centre right was George Bush the Second.

That is a typical caricature of Dubya.

The one beneath him might be Condoleezza Rice.

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Nick Spalding - 08 Feb 2010 13:48 GMT
Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote, in
<7k40n5d29j99l5996j40depsk3jat90kkb@4ax.com>
on Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:37:34 +0000:

> >> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
> >> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.
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>
> The one beneath him might be Condoleezza Rice.

Top left Bill Clinton?
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Lars Eighner - 08 Feb 2010 14:11 GMT
> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote, in
><7k40n5d29j99l5996j40depsk3jat90kkb@4ax.com>
>  on Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:37:34 +0000:

>> >> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
>> >> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
>> The one beneath him might be Condoleezza Rice.

> Top left Bill Clinton?

Or former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich or way-form Speaker of the
House Tip O'Neil, or the late Ted Kennedy.  They all seem to be that way.
If they were tagged, I'd be willing to accept any of three or four possible
tags.  One of them looks like Bob Dobbs sans pipe.  Or he could be Robert
McNamara, although it would seem pointless to lampoon him now.

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tony cooper - 08 Feb 2010 14:12 GMT
>Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote, in
><7k40n5d29j99l5996j40depsk3jat90kkb@4ax.com>
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>
>Top left Bill Clinton?

Dick Cheney is center, bottom row.  Hilary, top right.

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John Varela - 08 Feb 2010 19:29 GMT
> >Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote, in
> ><7k40n5d29j99l5996j40depsk3jat90kkb@4ax.com>
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>
> Dick Cheney is center, bottom row.  Hilary, top right.

I thought Billary, W, and Cheney were immediately recognizable.
Bottom right could be Condy, since she's glaring at Cheney. That
leaves three people in the middle, a woman and two men, that I don't
recognize. Could two of them be Pelosi and Reid?

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Jeffrey Turner - 09 Feb 2010 05:31 GMT
>>> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote, in
>>> <7k40n5d29j99l5996j40depsk3jat90kkb@4ax.com>
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> leaves three people in the middle, a woman and two men, that I don't
> recognize. Could two of them be Pelosi and Reid?

Pelosi is top center, I think that's Mitt Romney below her and
Rudy Giuliani lower left.  But I'm not certain of the last two.

--Jeff

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Pat Durkin - 08 Feb 2010 13:51 GMT
>> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
>> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.
>
> I thought the one at centre right was George Bush the Second.

Lowest right is Condi Rice.  Most people will recognize Bill Clinton
and, by inference Laura Bush and Hillary Clinton.  Bottom of the tree
is Dick Cheney.  But I can't say who is the big-eared little cuss to
the left of Cheney.  Might be Ross Perot .  And above him, a
good-looking long-faced guy who might be Bush the Elder, but that
assumption and Perot's ID are just a bit dated.
James Hogg - 08 Feb 2010 14:01 GMT
>>> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
>>> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.
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> good-looking long-faced guy who might be Bush the Elder, but that
> assumption and Perot's ID are just a bit dated.

Nancy Pelosi (not Laura Bush, I think) is the woman in the middle at the
top.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 08 Feb 2010 15:21 GMT
>But I can't say who is the big-eared little cuss to
>the left of Cheney.

Obama?

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 08 Feb 2010 15:25 GMT
>>> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
>>> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.
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> is Dick Cheney.  But I can't say who is the big-eared little cuss to
> the left of Cheney.  Might be Ross Perot .

I think it's supposed to be Obama.

> And above him, a good-looking long-faced guy who might be Bush the
> Elder, but that assumption and Perot's ID are just a bit dated.

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James Hogg - 08 Feb 2010 15:58 GMT
>>>> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
>>>> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.
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>> And above him, a good-looking long-faced guy who might be Bush the
>> Elder, but that assumption and Perot's ID are just a bit dated.

I suspect the cartoon is pre-Obama. Here's my list of candidates:

Top: Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton
Middle: Mitt Romney, W
Bottom: Rudy Giuliani, Bill Cheney, Condi

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R H Draney - 08 Feb 2010 16:36 GMT
James Hogg filted:

>I suspect the cartoon is pre-Obama. Here's my list of candidates:
>
>Top: Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton
>Middle: Mitt Romney, W
>Bottom: Rudy Giuliani, Bill Cheney, Condi

Except for the fact that Cheney's a Dick rather than a Bill, I agree with your
suggestions....r

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James Hogg - 08 Feb 2010 17:05 GMT
> James Hogg filted:
>> I suspect the cartoon is pre-Obama. Here's my list of candidates:
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> Except for the fact that Cheney's a Dick rather than a Bill, I agree with your
> suggestions....r

Oops. I agree that Cheney's a Dick (head).

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R H Draney - 08 Feb 2010 18:40 GMT
James Hogg filted:

>> James Hogg filted:
>>> I suspect the cartoon is pre-Obama. Here's my list of candidates:
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>
>Oops. I agree that Cheney's a Dick (head).

 http://members.cox.net/dadoctah/images/cheneychaney.jpg

Chaney, Cheney...separated at birth?...r

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CDB - 08 Feb 2010 16:02 GMT
>>>> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians,
>>>> presumably form the US, whom I didn't recognise.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> And above him, a good-looking long-faced guy who might be Bush the
>> Elder, but that assumption and Perot's ID are just a bit dated.

The one that's roughly left of centre?  I figure he's a Democrat*, or
ar least a liberal.  The other smilers are Democrats (Clinton, Obama,
Clinton; and I agree with James that the short haircut is Nancy
Pelosi), and the three identifiable Republicans are frowning from the
Lower Right.

*Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader?  It would fit with Pelosi.
Ray O'Hara - 08 Feb 2010 19:26 GMT
>>> In our last episode,
>>> <f03f1696-0955-470c-9218-b734279a8b1a@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, the
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> I wondered whether the faces were those of politicians, presumably
> form the US, whom I didn't recognise.

G.W. Bush, both Clintons, Cheney, Condi Rice, Rudy 9/11 Giulani, and two
others
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 08 Feb 2010 12:55 GMT
>Recently I stick to cartoons' English.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>I don't know what this whole story is about.
>Would you give me any hint?

There are "folklore sayings" that predict what the weather will be like
in the future:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_lore

One idea is that it is possible to know what the weather will be like by
observing the behaviour of animals. The animals are assumed to know what
the weather will be.

The cartoon has three separate, invented, pictures based on this idea.
They are not three stages in a story.

The pictures in the cartoon are set in a time before winter.

The first picture shows a caterpillar wearing a golf cap to keep its
head warm.

The second picture shows a cow wearing a warm hat and a scarf. The cow
is saying that "A Hudson Bay blanket would be nice too". It needs a
blanket to keeps its body warm.

The third picture shows a squirrel gathering nuts to store away as food
to eat during the winter. Instead of actual tree nuts there are faces of
people. That is a joke about "nut" meaning "A mad or crazy person; an
eccentric, a crank".

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Mark Brader - 08 Feb 2010 20:57 GMT
"Masa" asked about:
>> http://www.lightstriking.com/test/01.jpg

> The second picture shows a cow wearing a warm hat and a scarf. The cow
> is saying that "A Hudson Bay blanket would be nice too". It needs a
> blanket to keeps its body warm.

Now I'm curious how many readers here recognize specifically the
reference to a Hudson Bay blanket.

Peter Duncanson:
> The third picture shows a squirrel gathering nuts to store away as food
> to eat during the winter. Instead of actual tree nuts there are faces of
> people. That is a joke about "nut" meaning "A mad or crazy person; an
> eccentric, a crank".

Faces of *politicians*.  So it's a joke about politicians.
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 08 Feb 2010 21:10 GMT
>"Masa" asked about:
>>> http://www.lightstriking.com/test/01.jpg
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Now I'm curious how many readers here recognize specifically the
>reference to a Hudson Bay blanket.

I don't.

>Peter Duncanson:
>> The third picture shows a squirrel gathering nuts to store away as food
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Faces of *politicians*.  So it's a joke about politicians.

So a subset of "A mad or crazy person; an eccentric, a crank".

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Ray O'Hara - 09 Feb 2010 01:04 GMT
>>"Masa" asked about:
>>>> http://www.lightstriking.com/test/01.jpg
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
> I don't.

Indian Trade Blankets.
tony cooper - 08 Feb 2010 22:07 GMT
>"Masa" asked about:
>>> http://www.lightstriking.com/test/01.jpg
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Now I'm curious how many readers here recognize specifically the
>reference to a Hudson Bay blanket.

Anyone who reads what was "The Beaver".

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Ray O'Hara - 09 Feb 2010 01:03 GMT
>>"Masa" asked about:
>>>> http://www.lightstriking.com/test/01.jpg
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Anyone who reads what was "The Beaver".

Formally 'The Beaver', now 'Canadian History'.
They had to change it to pass through internet anti-bad words filters.
tony cooper - 09 Feb 2010 04:04 GMT
>>>"Masa" asked about:
>>>>> http://www.lightstriking.com/test/01.jpg
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Formally 'The Beaver', now 'Canadian History'.
>They had to change it to pass through internet anti-bad words filters.

I rather think it's formally "Canadian History".  It was formerly "The
Beaver".

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Mark Brader - 13 Feb 2010 03:42 GMT
Mark Brader:
> Now I'm curious how many readers here recognize specifically the
> reference to a Hudson Bay blanket.

The Hudson Bay Company, or The Bay for short, is one of the major
chains of department stores in Canada -- and also the oldest company
in Canada, having been founded in 1607 as an organization of fur
traders.  When they were fur traders, one of the things they traded
for the furs was blankets.  Today they still sell a line of blankets
and other goods marked with the store's distinctive pattern of
colored stripes on white -- and if you saw the Olympic opening
ceremonies, the Canadian flagbearer had on one of their scarves.
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 13 Feb 2010 11:18 GMT
>Mark Brader:
>> Now I'm curious how many readers here recognize specifically the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>colored stripes on white -- and if you saw the Olympic opening
>ceremonies, the Canadian flagbearer had on one of their scarves.

It seems that the English town of Witney was a supplier of blankets to
the Hudson's Bay Company

   ...as early as 1681 but the town did not become a major provider to
   it until the 1730s, when James Empson started receiving regular HBC
   orders . One of the earliest definite records we have for the supply
   of point blankets comes in December 1779, when five hundred pairs of
   'pointed' blankets were ordered by the HBC from the firm of Thomas
   Empson (James' son). The demand for points then seems to have
   increased rapidly until the fur trade reached its height in the
   early 19th century.

http://witneyblanketstory.org.uk/WBP.asp?navigationPage=North%20America

   Point blankets are perhaps the Witney industry's most famous
   product. They were traded mainly with North America, where they came
   to have a cultural significance far beyond that of mere bed
   coverings.
   
   Point blankets were so called because they had several short lines
   known as 'points' sewn or woven into one edge near a corner; the
   number of points on a blanket was intended to indicate its size and
   therefore its value. The blankets were always made from wool and had
   one or more 'headings', or bands of colour, at either end but were
   produced in a great variety of colours and patterns over the years.

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