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Discussion Groups / English Usage / February 2010Quitting
No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users are quit by week six." The "are quit" is unusual to me. I'd say, "have quit". Is that a regionalism, perhaps? Brian  SignatureDay 374 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project Me thinks it should be "have quit". Never heard of "are quit" as a regionalism before... > Me thinks it should be "have quit". Never heard of "are quit" as a > regionalism before... I have heard "are quit", but only followed by "of" and the meaning is "are rid of/have got rid of". SignatureRob Bannister > Me thinks it should be "have quit". Never heard of "are quit" as a > regionalism before... Me thinks "30% of users quit by week six." would work fine too. > No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a > stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users > are quit by week six." > > The "are quit" is unusual to me. I'd say, "have quit". Is that a > regionalism, perhaps? Are you sure you heard it right. > > No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US > > for a stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% > > of users are quit by week six." > > > > The "are quit" is unusual to me. I'd say, "have quit". Is that a > > regionalism, perhaps? > Are you sure you heard it right. Yes, on multiple versions of the commercial. It was on tape, so I could review it. Brian SignatureDay 375 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project > Ray O'Hara wrote: >>> No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US >>> for a stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yes, on multiple versions of the commercial. It was on tape, so I > could review it. I happened to hear it last night, and yes, it's "are quit". SignatureSkitt (AmE) >>>> No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US >>>> for a stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I happened to hear it last night, and yes, it's "are quit". Or was it "were"? I don't recall. Rats. SignatureSkitt (AmE) > > > > > No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the > > > > > US for a stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Or was it "were"? I don't recall. Rats. It's "were", but that's essentially the same question. I corrected it elsewhere and provided a link to their web site with the same thing. Brian SignatureDay 375 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project >No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a >stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users >are quit by week six." > >The "are quit" is unusual to me. I'd say, "have quit". Is that a >regionalism, perhaps? Maybe they are weasel-wording it - "have quit" might imply a claim of permanent change. SignatureJohn > No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a > stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users > are quit by week six." > > The "are quit" is unusual to me. I'd say, "have quit". Is that a > regionalism, perhaps? Urg. I said I was sure this was right elsewhere, but what they actually said was, "were quit". Same basic question. <http://www.chantix.com/about-chantix.aspx> Brian SignatureDay 375 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project > > No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a > > stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > <http://www.chantix.com/about-chantix.aspx> You certainly caught our attention with that ad, but that's OK, it's for a good cause. I vaguely remember some years ago a discussion on this honorable forum about the improper usage of a certain ad and someone suggested the bad language was a purposeful attention getter. Not unlike "were quit". >No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a >stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users >are quit by week six." > >The "are quit" is unusual to me. I'd say, "have quit". Is that a >regionalism, perhaps? I think the use of "are" is similar to using the auxiliary "to be" instead of "to have" for verbs of motion, location or state (or whatever the correct technical terms are) This is usually archaic in English (but is 'a must' in French). For example, instead of "He has gone", you could say "He is gone". This sounds fairly normal. However, for some other verbs, "is" would sound distinctly odd (even if arguably grammatically correct). "To quit" can mean "to leave" or "to depart". "He is left" and "He is departed" are understandable - even if a bit quaint. I suppose that "He is quit" falls into the same category. SignatureIan >> No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a >> stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > understandable - even if a bit quaint. I suppose that "He is quit" falls > into the same category. But "I am quit of foolish things" is fine. quit - leave, abandon be quit of - be rid of, be free of SignatureRob Bannister >>> No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a >>> stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >quit - leave, abandon >be quit of - be rid of, be free of Ah, but the "of" is a slight cheat! You can't say "I have quit of". But you could say "30% of users are quit of smoking by week six". [A similar construction to "free of"?] SignatureIan >>>> No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a >>>> stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > you could say "30% of users are quit of smoking by week six". [A similar > construction to "free of"?] I'd go further than that and say that using "to be" with "quit" is wrong because "quit" is a transitive verb. Oh, now I find I've entangled myself in another problem: "I am undone" where "undo" is clearly transitive. English is too hard; next time round, I'm choosing something else as my mother tongue. SignatureRob Bannister >>>>> No, not me. There's a series of TV commercials running in the US for a >>>>> stop-smoking drug. Part of the voiceover something like, "30% of users [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > clearly transitive. English is too hard; next time round, I'm choosing > something else as my mother tongue. I wonder if it's by any chance trying to say that 30% of people who quit at the start are still abstaining by the sixth week? It's still not right to me, but it does mean something different from "have quit". SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk |
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