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Maria Conlon - 12 Feb 2010 18:28 GMT
Here's an article vaguely connected with the "Please this service is NOT
free" thread. It seems that (in the USA, at least) your cell phone
records can be accessed by law enforcement bureaus. The records in
question are related to where you were when you made certain calls.

Probably, no AUEers will be subjected to this practice _unless_ you've
been robbing banks, conspiring with crooks, or are lost in the mountains
and were recently making calls on your cell/mobile phone. (There may be
other possibilities. Who knows where this could lead?)

The article is in cnet news (in the "Politics and Law" section). Title:
"Police Blotter: Web searches lead to murder conviction."

The URL: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

I think I'm right right in thinking that computer records of sites we've
visited, emails we've sent, and posts we've made (even when using a nom
de group) are already available to law enforcement entities. Therefore,
I'm wondering what's next -- recordings of our phone (any kind of phone)
conversations?

ObAUE: What might we name the investigation via phone towers into our
whereabouts?

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Maria Conlon,
Wondering how a crook is supposed to make a living these days. Not that
I'm personally concerned, you understand.

Murray Arnow - 12 Feb 2010 18:39 GMT
>Here's an article vaguely connected with the "Please this service is NOT
>free" thread. It seems that (in the USA, at least) your cell phone
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>I'm wondering what's next -- recordings of our phone (any kind of phone)
>conversations?

As far as I can tell, they are already available to authorities under
the Patriot Act", and who knows who has been spied on.

>ObAUE: What might we name the investigation via phone towers into our
>whereabouts?

It's snooping no matter what the euphemism. The best advice regarding
this was given by a Chicago Alderman, Eddie Vrdolyak. He said treat all
conversations as if they were being recorded.

This advice stood Fast Eddie in good stead for many years, until he
forgot it and was caught on tape. Eddie will start doing his time soon.
Maria Conlon - 12 Feb 2010 19:06 GMT
>>Here's an article vaguely connected with the "Please this service is
>>NOT
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> As far as I can tell, they are already available to authorities under
> the Patriot Act", and who knows who has been spied on.

I have the impression that the laws are now more easily used by law
enforcement agencies. (Also note my response to my own earlier post in
this thread.)

>>ObAUE: What might we name the investigation via phone towers into our
>>whereabouts?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> forgot it and was caught on tape. Eddie will start doing his time
> soon.

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Maria Conlon - 12 Feb 2010 19:02 GMT
> Here's an article vaguely connected with the "Please this service is
> NOT free" thread. It seems that (in the USA, at least) your cell phone
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> The article is in cnet news (in the "Politics and Law" section).
> Title: "Police Blotter: Web searches lead to murder conviction."

The actual title is "Feds push for tracking cell phones." (The above
"Police Blotter" etc title is for a separate but somewhat related
article.)

Note: I've gone to the site two or three times now, and the URL takes me
one article first and then another one. They may be editing the page
even as we write.

> The URL: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> ObAUE: What might we name the investigation via phone towers into our
> whereabouts?
J. J. Lodder - 12 Feb 2010 21:13 GMT
> Here's an article vaguely connected with the "Please this service is NOT
> free" thread. It seems that (in the USA, at least) your cell phone
> records can be accessed by law enforcement bureaus. The records in
> question are related to where you were when you made certain calls.

They betray were you are -all- the time,
not just when making or receiving calls.
The only way to avoid that is to switch the thing off.

Jan

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