 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
| HomeDiscussion GroupsEnglish UsageBritish EnglishESL Teaching Learnglish.com Contact UsLink To UsSearch & Site Map |
Discussion Groups / English Usage / February 2010Rare woman
Hello: Is "rare woman" well utilized here? --- Bishop, a rare woman suspected of a workplace shooting, had just months left teaching at the University of Alabama in Huntsville because she was denied tenure. http://tinyurl.com/y8twr4k --- -- Thanks. Marius Hancu >Hello: > >Is "rare woman" well utilized here? It is not the woman who is rare. It is "rare woman-suspected-of-a-workplace-shooting". >--- >Bishop, a rare woman suspected of a workplace shooting, had just [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >http://tinyurl.com/y8twr4k >---  SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >> Hello: >> >> Is "rare woman" well utilized here? > > It is not the woman who is rare. > It is "rare woman-suspected-of-a-workplace-shooting". "one of those rare women ..." would be acceptable to me (though I'd prefer Cheryl's "one of the few") but "rare woman" definitely isn't. Apart from anything else, women aren't rare (as a homosexual character remarked in a film I once saw, "women are what there are most of in the world, apart from insects" -- I can't remember which film it was, but it was set in Buenos Aires and directed by someone who had obviously never been there). Signatureathel >> Hello: >> >> Is "rare woman" well utilized here? > > It is not the woman who is rare. > It is "rare woman-suspected-of-a-workplace-shooting". Is that her Lakota name? SignatureJohn Dean Oxford On Feb 14, 5:57�am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote: > On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:30:27 -0800 (PST), Marius Hancu > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It is not the woman who is rare. > It is "rare woman-suspected-of-a-workplace-shooting". Even with the use of hyphens the phrase is so contrived that it doesn't make too much sense. I've never heard of another female suspected of workplace shooting. If there were any, they would have been convicted or aquited by now thus losing their "suspect" status. How many chances are that at the time I'm writing this message there are at least two such female suspects? Very "rare", indeed. >>Hello: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>months left teaching at the University of Alabama in Huntsville >>because she was denied tenure. ' She grew up just a few towns away from mine. It turns out she "accidently" fatally shot her brother in 1986 butit was cobered up. Her mother was a town official and a friend of the Chief of Police in Braintree Mass. > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks. > Marius Hancu I can understand what the author means, but I think the sentence is worded poorly. It sounds like she's a rare woman, but she's actually one of those rare people, a female mass murderer. Alleged mass murderer, I mean, of course, since she hasn't been convicted yet. The author could easily have written "Bishop, one of the few women suspected of a workplace shooting...". SignatureCheryl > > Is "rare woman" well utilized here? > > > --- > > Bishop, a rare woman suspected of a workplace shooting, had just > > months left teaching at the University of Alabama in Huntsville > > because she was denied tenure. > I can understand what the author means, Me too. > but I think the sentence is > worded poorly. It sounds like she's a rare woman, but she's actually one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The author could easily have written "Bishop, one of the few women > suspected of a workplace shooting...". That's my point. Thank you both. Marius Hancu Cheryl filted: >> Is "rare woman" well utilized here? >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >The author could easily have written "Bishop, one of the few women >suspected of a workplace shooting...". Not "one of the only women suspected"?...r SignatureA pessimist sees the glass as half empty. An optometrist asks whether you see the glass more full like this?...or like this? > Cheryl filted: >>> Is "rare woman" well utilized here? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Not "one of the only women suspected"?...r I can't think of another woman currently suspected of either a workplace shooting or any mass murder, but that might just be because I haven't read the right newspapers. There have certainly been female serial killers, although not as many of them as male serial killers. SignatureCheryl > There have certainly been female serial killers, although not as many of > them as male serial killers. Lack of fair opportunity. Now that things are evening out a bit between the sexes, we may look forward to more mass murders by women. Some will assuredly be spectacular and will demonstrate the feminine touch. SignatureRob Bannister > > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I can understand what the author means, but I think the sentence is > worded poorly. It sounds like she's a rare woman, It's like when saying of a flower that "(such and such) is a rare plant" does not suggest that all plants are rare. A slightly different take on such rarity can be gleamed from http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7026355.ece where one student described her as , "She’s a genius, but she really just can’t explain things.” >. but she's actually one > of those rare people, a female mass murderer. Alleged mass murderer, I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Cheryl >Hello: > >Is "rare woman" well utilized here? Now you've done it. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:30:27 -0800 (PST), Marius Hancu > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Now you've done it. Well done, as opposed to the word that may attract comments from a not- so-unexpected source. >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:30:27 -0800 (PST), Marius Hancu >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Well done, as opposed to the word that may attract comments from a not- > so-unexpected source. Now what could that be, I wonder. Signatureathel >>Hello: >> >>Is "rare woman" well utilized here? > > Now you've done it. No, not well done at all. SignatureNo right of private conversation was enumerated in the Constitution. I don't suppose it occurred to anyone at the time that it could be prevented. [Whitfield Diffie] >>>Hello: >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >No, not well done at all. You are in touch with the preferred meaning of the word, according to some. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://tinyurl.com/y8twr4k Yes, it means she hasn't been overcooked. Yet. --Jeff SignatureLove consists of overestimating the differences between one woman and another. --George Bernard Shaw Marius Hancu: > Is "rare woman" well utilized here? > --- > Bishop, a rare woman suspected of a workplace shooting, had just > months left teaching at the University of Alabama ... It doesn't work for me. I get the intent but I don't think that's a proper way to say it. However, I can't think of a comparably terse way that I would call correct. SignatureMark Brader, Toronto | "We are informed many things, msb@vex.net | some of them correct." --Greg Goss > Marius Hancu: >> Is "rare woman" well utilized here? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > proper way to say it. However, I can't think of a comparably terse > way that I would call correct. Bishop, a rare woman, in that she is suspected of a workplace shooting, had just months left teaching at the University of Alabama ... > > Marius Hancu: > >> Is "rare woman" well utilized here? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > shooting, had just months left teaching at the University of Alabama > ... I'd take out the comma after "woman". I might also try, "Bishop is one of the few women ever suspected of a workplace shooting. She had just n months left teaching at the University of Alabama." This makes it clear that the two thoughts don't go together, so probably one sentence or the other needs to be moved elsewhere in the article. -- Jerry Friedman >>> Marius Hancu: >>>> Is "rare woman" well utilized here? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'd take out the comma after "woman". Shouldn't have been there to start with. Another of those "Oh, NO! I can't believe I did that." moments at seeing it in the flesh. > I might also try, "Bishop is one of the few women ever suspected of > a workplace shooting. She had just n months left teaching at the > University of Alabama." This makes it clear that the two thoughts > don't go together, so probably one sentence or the other needs to be > moved elsewhere in the article. SignatureFrank ess |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2012 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.