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Marius Hancu - 22 Feb 2010 13:23 GMT
Hello:

First time I see "play-in game":

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Canada, the gold-medal favorite, was expected to coast into the medal
round. But now, after nearly losing to Switzerland and being outplayed
on home ice by the Americans, it must win a play-in game Tuesday
against Germany to reach the quarterfinals.

http://tinyurl.com/yh2p46u
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Does "play-in" game a group game, i.e. not in the play-offs?

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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Marius Hancu - 22 Feb 2010 13:25 GMT
> Does "play-in" game a group game, i.e. not in the play-offs?

Does "play-in" game _mean_ a group game, i.e. not in the play-offs?
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 22 Feb 2010 13:58 GMT
>Hello:
>
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>
>Does "play-in" game a group game, i.e. not in the play-offs?

I've not met this phrase before. It seems to be American.

In the context of basketball:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_Opening_Round_game

   The Opening Round game, (formerly known as the Play-In Game) of the
   NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship is the first game of
   the tournament, played between the two last-seeded (i.e. 64th and
   65th) teams.

   The reason the game is not officially referred to as a "play-in" is
   because the two teams are officially in the tournament before the
   game is played. As recently as 1991, the NCAA has conducted play-in
   games (usually between champions of what were considered to be the
   weakest conferences[citation needed]) prior to the announcement of
   the brackets; the losers were not considered to have been in the
   tournament. Note that the loser of the current opening round game is
   still credited with a tournament appearance for purposes of sharing
   in the NCAA basketball contract revenues, while the winner receives
   a share for being in the round of 64.

In the context from which you quote it appears to be what in some other
sports would be a "Repechage". I first met this word in rowing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repechage

   ....
   ....
   It is also used in rowing. Often only the first one or two boats in
   a race will qualify automatically for the next round, and all of the
   other boats must race again in one or more special heats (known as
   the repechage) to qualify. Because conditions such as wind vary
   between the heats, often significantly affecting a competitor's
   time, rowing's repechage system allows the "fastest losers" to
   qualify independent of the variable conditions in the opening heats.

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Ray O'Hara - 22 Feb 2010 15:29 GMT
> Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Thanks.
> Marius Hancu

It is a last chance game, the winner moves on to the next round the loser is
out.
Evan Kirshenbaum - 22 Feb 2010 16:14 GMT
>> Hello:
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> It is a last chance game, the winner moves on to the next round the
> loser is out.

Note that it's a last-chance game where the winner moves on to the
"official" tournament, which is often a single-elimination tournament
(i.e., one made up of last- chance games).

In this case, they've decreed that the official "medal round"
tournament has three rounds and so requires eight teams.  There are
three pools, and so the winners of each pool (USA, Russia, and Sweden)
get spots, as does the second-place finisher with the best record (in
this case Finland, who beat the Czech Republic on a tie breaker).  The
remaining eight teams each play a single play-in game for one of the
remaining four spots.

I'm a little uncomfortable with there being four "play-in games" for a
three-round (twelve-team) tournament.  I think I'd consider it a
four-round tournament with the top four seeds getting byes (advancing
to the next round without having to win a game).  Most often it's
either a tie-breaker game or one or two games, usually in a much
larger tournament, although sometimes it's due to a "second chance"
game for the last spot or two in a small (4 or 8 team) tournament.

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Jerry Friedman - 22 Feb 2010 17:31 GMT
> Hello:
>
> First time I see "play-in game":
...

"First time I've seen..." by the way.

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Chuck Riggs - 23 Feb 2010 12:18 GMT
>> Hello:
>>
>> First time I see "play-in game":
>...
>
>"First time I've seen..." by the way.

That remark is aching for a comma.
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