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Discussion Groups / English Usage / February 2010Seen in the wild
From a student's email to me today, "I haven't finished my literature review seen as I to hand in two assignments last week" "Seen" for "Seeing" is a new one, to me.  SignatureMike Page Google me at port.ac.uk if you need to send an email. > From a student's email to me today, > > "I haven't finished my literature review seen as I to hand in two > assignments last week" > > "Seen" for "Seeing" is a new one, to me. In the written form it does indeed appear to be a new sighting. I've heard it in speech often enough, though. You should give the student marks off for an apostrophe error. The correct spelling, in my opinion, is "see'n", to reflect the two-syllable pronunciation. SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. >> From a student's email to me today, >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > correct spelling, in my opinion, is "see'n", to reflect the two-syllable > pronunciation. Two apostrophes, shirley? See'n'? (BTW, HB, Peter.) SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) > (BTW, HB, Peter.) What a memory! Thank you. SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. >> (BTW, HB, Peter.) >> > What a memory! Thank you. In case you should think this is in any way related to my elephantine qualities or my exotic personality disorder, I hasten to add that a reminder popped up on FB. SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) Laura Spira: > (BTW, HB, Peter.) For a moment there, I thought Laura was talking about pencils. SignatureMark Brader "He added a 3-point lead" is pronounced Toronto differently in Snooker than in Typography... msb@vex.net -- Liam Quin > Laura Spira: >> (BTW, HB, Peter.) > > For a moment there, I thought Laura was talking about pencils. 2B | ~2B ? SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. Laura Spira: >>> (BTW, HB, Peter.) Mark Brader: >> For a moment there, I thought Laura was talking about pencils. Peter Moylan: > 2B | ~2B ? Well, since my local Grand & Toy stopped stocking 2B's, it's been B. They have softer ones at deSerres, of course, but not with erasers. SignatureMark Brader | "This man must be very ignorant, for he answers Toronto | every question he is asked." -- Voltaire msb@vex.net | "'I resemble that remark!'" -- Steve Summit >> Laura Spira: >>> (BTW, HB, Peter.) >> >> For a moment there, I thought Laura was talking about pencils. > >2B | ~2B ? Saved to the Humour folder. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) > > Laura Spira: > >> (BTW, HB, Peter.) > > > For a moment there, I thought Laura was talking about pencils. > > 2B | ~2B ? "2B or N2B, that is the FAQ." -- H4mL37 Jim Deutch (JimboCat) -- "It's essentially word opera, where normal opera is a small story that is an excuse to have music, so word opera is a small story that gives an excuse to have word play." -- Darin Johnson, on Shakespeare > From a student's email to me today, > > "I haven't finished my literature review seen as I to hand in two > assignments last week" > > "Seen" for "Seeing" is a new one, to me. It may be that (though isn't there a 'had' missing before the 'to'?) But 'seen' has entered youfspeak from the Caribbean http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=seen SignatureJohn Dean Oxford > From a student's email to me today, > > "I haven't finished my literature review seen as I to hand in two > assignments last week" > > "Seen" for "Seeing" is a new one, to me. XTA Me too. And I couldn't help noticing that the expression, old or new, contains a semi-respectable example of "as" meaning "that". > From a student's email to me today, > > "I haven't finished my literature review seen as I to hand in two > assignments last week" > > "Seen" for "Seeing" is a new one, to me. Me too, but it makes sense as "it being seen". The Spanish equivalent to "*seen that", "visto que", is perfectly standard, maybe a bit formal (I think). If this catches on, I'll probably prefer it to "being that", though I'll still prefer "because", "since", and "as" to any of those. -- Jerry Friedman >> From a student's email to me today, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > to "being that", though I'll still prefer "because", "since", and "as" > to any of those. Hmm. Hadn't thought of that. We do say "provided that" (which _is_ derived from a verb of seeing) and "granted that". I wonder if "been that" or "been as" has arrived. SignatureMike. On Feb 24, 1:45 pm, "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> From a student's email to me today, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Hmm. Hadn't thought of that. We do say "provided that" (which _is_ > derived from a verb of seeing) and "granted that". The closest I could come to those was "due to". Despite this, I suspect Peter Moylan's spelling, "see'n'", reflects the origin. But things may change. > I wonder if "been that" or "been as" has arrived. Me too. -- Jerry Friedman > From a student's email to me today, > > "I haven't finished my literature review seen as I to hand in two > assignments last week" > > "Seen" for "Seeing" is a new one, to me. I'd never seen it used until today in another newsgroup. It must be the coming trend. |
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