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devoiced (th) consonants

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Masa - 24 Feb 2010 01:40 GMT
In my previus posting, I got very previous comment from
Jerry Friedman:
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In brief, most North Americans devoice final stops and fricatives.
We
can tell "rise" from "rice", "lathe" from "laith", and "sad" from
"sat" because we make the vowel last a little longer before the
"voiced" consonant (the first in each of those pairs).  At least some
of us, including me, also pronounce some vowels with the mouth more
open before a "voiced" consonant.
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This is very precious because I think I've never found books and
anything here
giving the knowledge.

So I picked up two instances which I suppose might fit devoiced
consonants
as said by Jerry Friedman.

http://www.lightstriking.com/test/12.wav   clothe
http://www.lightstriking.com/test/17.wav   scythe

1) clothe: the last consonant (th, or ð) could have been voiced, but
not heard. SO it must be devoiced.
2) scythe: The same thing could be said about this case.

What this indicates is that it's quite hard for non-natives to tell
apart,
becuase it must be done
only  by the subtle length of a vowal before the consonant.
John Holmes - 26 Feb 2010 12:20 GMT
> 1) clothe: the last consonant (th, or ð) could have been voiced, but
> not heard. SO it must be devoiced.
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> becuase it must be done
> only  by the subtle length of a vowal before the consonant.

Remember, though, that it doesn't work like that for a lot of other
accents.

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John Dunlop - 28 Feb 2010 16:15 GMT
John Holmes:

...
> Remember, though, that it doesn't work like that for a lot of other
> accents.

You can hear different accents here:

http://www.soundcomparisons.com/

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