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Boring Conversationalists vs. Interesting Conversationalists

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Berkeley Brett - 26 Feb 2010 01:14 GMT
Hello all:

It is stretching it a bit to consider this an issue of English usage,
but I think it's an issue that language-enthusiasts may be a bit more
"tuned into" than most.

My own feeling is that conversation is (to an extent) an art form, and
it's one we have ample opportunity to practice.

I suspect that all of us have known people who are particularly
interesting conversationalists and some others who are boring
conversationalists.  As people, the boring conversationalists may be
(otherwise) every bit as interesting as the interesting
conversationalists -- but for whatever reason, they lack
conversational skills.

I have my own ideas on the subject of what makes someone an
interesting conversationalist (or a boring one), but I would like to
ask members of this esteemed newsgroups what their opinions on this
subject are before I share my own.

Thinking of people you've known (or public figures you may not have
known personally), what sets them off as interesting or dull
conversationalists?

Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may choose to share.  Even
if they are simple and somewhat random, that's just fine by me.  They
are appreciated in any case.

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tony cooper - 26 Feb 2010 01:40 GMT
>Hello all:
>
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>known personally), what sets them off as interesting or dull
>conversationalists?

Just like everyone else, I find that interesting conversationalists
are people who talk about something that interests me and that they
allow me to participate equally - if not more - in the conversation.
They get extra points if they laugh at my jokes.  It's all about me.

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Bertel Lund Hansen - 26 Feb 2010 01:50 GMT
Berkeley Brett skrev:

> Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may choose to share.  Even
> if they are simple and somewhat random, that's just fine by me.  They
> are appreciated in any case.

One can get a reputation for being a great conversationalist
without really saying much. The method has two elements:

1. Ask only questions about the life and thoughts of the other
person. They should appeal to expanding explanations:

     What did you do then?
     Didn't it feel strange?
     Was he able to perform the task you wanted him to?

2. Use confirming noises or words, like "uhu", "okay", "really?"
as answers.

3. Don't utter a judgement, and don't express your own oppinion
unless directly asked - and then follow up with a question along
the lines of 1.

This description sounds like the person will win a prize as the
most boring person in the company, but it is surprisingly
effective. Parents who want their teenage kids to not respond to
every question with a one-syllable word, could follow these
guidelines, but they should give 2. the highest priority and cut
down on questions until the kid talks like a waterfall.

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Ray O'Hara - 26 Feb 2010 05:41 GMT
> Berkeley Brett skrev:
>
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> guidelines, but they should give 2. the highest priority and cut
> down on questions until the kid talks like a waterfall.

I'd bop anybody so intrusive.
Arcadian Rises - 26 Feb 2010 02:44 GMT
> Hello all:
>
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> ask members of this esteemed newsgroups what their opinions on this
> subject are before I share my own.

I find great conversationalists people who think outside the box, who
come up with different perspectives and who know how to stimulate
intellectually (not emotionally) even with trivial topics such as
gossip.

I find extremely boring people who utter what they think I want to
hear, or find different ways to reinforce the points I'm making in
order to agree with me. I also find almost offensive people who follow
the columnists' advice on conversation: asking me lots of questions
about myself, laughong at my lamest jokes or paying me lots of
compliments.

> Thinking of people you've known (or public figures you may not have
> known personally), what sets them off as interesting or dull
> conversationalists?

If I don't know them personally it stands to reason that I've never
had a conversation with them. I might fantasize about having long
conversation with some of my favorite public figures, but that doesn't
count as an accurate assessment on their conversational skills.
Steve Hayes - 26 Feb 2010 11:07 GMT
>I find extremely boring people who utter what they think I want to
>hear, or find different ways to reinforce the points I'm making in
>order to agree with me. I also find almost offensive people who follow
>the columnists' advice on conversation: asking me lots of questions
>about myself, laughong at my lamest jokes or paying me lots of
>compliments.

Lots of blog spammers seem to think that doing that will not get their spam
deleted.

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Joe Fineman - 26 Feb 2010 22:10 GMT
A thing I read a long time ago that seems right to me is:  Interesting
conversation switches levels of abstraction.  A train of bare factual
statements or of general statements of principle is boring; going from
examples to rules or from rules to examples or exceptions is
interesting.
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Arcadian Rises - 27 Feb 2010 00:00 GMT
> A thing I read a long time ago that seems right to me is: �Interesting
> conversation switches levels of abstraction. �A train of bare factual
> statements or of general statements of principle is boring; going from
> examples to rules or from rules to examples or exceptions is
> interesting.

But I find gossip very interesting even when it doesn't switch from
general to particular and vice-versa.
A "train of bare factual statements" of dirt will always pick up my
interest.
 
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