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Discussion Groups / English Usage / February 2010Frost: staying
Hello: "[By] staying": does Frost mean, at least here, that love is perpetual, once started? How about using the singular "beauty" especially coupled with the pluralizing "several?" --- Bond and Free ... Thought cleaves the interstellar gloom And sits in Sirius' disc all night Yet some say Love by being thrall And simply staying possesses all In several beauty that Thought fares far To find fused in another star. Robert Frost, p. 120 http://www.ketzle.com/frost/bondfree.htm --- Thanks. Marius Hancu > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Thanks. > Marius Hancu Not necessarily perpetual, but remaining for a long time, I think. "Several" can also mean "separate". I think Frost is saying that Love (by staying) possesses beauty separately from Thought, which finds it by travelling far.  SignatureCheryl > > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > (by staying) possesses beauty separately from Thought, which finds it by > travelling far. Or the things that Love possesses stay separate, while Thought finds them fused together, as CDB suggested. There may be an overtone of the meaning "privately owned", too. Love owns them but Thought finds them. -- Jerry Friedman >Hello: > >"[By] staying": does Frost mean, at least here, that love is >perpetual, once started? "staying" could mean "remaining", "continuing to exist" or "lasting". "And simply by continuing possesses all" >How about using the singular "beauty" especially coupled with the >pluralizing "several?" It could be that "several" is used to mean "multifaceted", "varied" or "having many aspects". >--- >Bond and Free [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Thanks. >Marius Hancu SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >> "[By] staying": does Frost mean, at least here, that love is >> perpetual, once started? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > "And simply by continuing possesses all" Yes, and by staying with the things of daily life on earth. Unquoted lines in the poem put more emphasis on thought's tendency to travel. >> How about using the singular "beauty" especially coupled with the >> pluralizing "several?" >> > It could be that "several" is used to mean "multifaceted", "varied" > or "having many aspects". Agreed again. "Several" is contrasted with "fused", which means, possibly among other things, combined, melted together. One of the several meanings of the title. It's good that you post the URL where possible, because the meaning of the lines you ask about is often, as here, made clearer elsewhere in the poem. I realise that it would be hard to include everything in the quoted part. >> --- >> Bond and Free [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> Thanks. >> Marius Hancu > >> "[By] staying": does Frost mean, at least here, that love is > >> perpetual, once started? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > possibly among other things, combined, melted together. One of the > several meanings of the title. I haven't seen this meeting in a while:-) > It's good that you post the URL where possible, because the meaning of > the lines you ask about is often, as here, made clearer elsewhere in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >> In several beauty that Thought fares far > >> To find fused in another star. Thank you all. Marius Hancu |
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