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Discussion Groups / English Usage / March 2010The place where two rivers meet
Hello: I'm not sure if: --- watershed 1 : WATER PARTING 2 : a region or area bounded peripherally by a water parting and draining ultimately to a particular watercourse or body of water : the catchment area or drainage basin from which the waters of a stream or stream system are drawn 3 : something (as a sloping contour or member) introduced into a structure primarily to shed or throw off water <a narrow watershed over a car window> 4 : a crucial or dividing point, line, or factor <his achievement would rank as a watershed in recent European history -- Newsweek> <without crossing the watershed of war -- H.L.Stimson> <the watershed moments of history -- C.H.Sykes> M-W U --- also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their waters. -- Thanks. Marius Hancu >Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their >waters. The usual term for the place where two (or more) rivers meet is "confluence". I have never met watershed with that meaning.  SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) [snip] >>4 : a crucial or dividing point, line, or factor <his achievement >>would rank as a watershed in recent European history -- Newsweek> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their >>waters. > The usual term for the place where two (or more) rivers meet is > "confluence". I would agree with this. Also, if you want to be obscure and archaic, there is a place outside Tewkesbury, not far from here, called The Mythe. According to Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythe ) Mythe is an Old English word meaning the joining of two rivers, appropriate as this is where the Avon flows into the Severn. > I have never met watershed with that meaning. Neither have I. Apart from the figurative meaning concerning TV programmes, in BrE it always means the dividing line between the area drained by two or more rivers. The hill that can be seen from this house is the watershed between the Severn and Thames catchment areas. With best wishes, Peter. SignaturePeter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004. (US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired. http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk Dr wrote on Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:32:15 GMT: > [snip] >>> 4 : a crucial or dividing point, line, or factor <his >>> achievement would rank as a watershed in recent European [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine >>> their waters. >> The usual term for the place where two (or more) rivers meet >> is "confluence". > I would agree with this. Also, if you want to be obscure and > archaic, there is a place outside Tewkesbury, not far from > here, called The Mythe. According to Wikipedia > ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythe ) Mythe is an Old English > word meaning the joining of two rivers, appropriate as this is > where the Avon flows into the Severn. >> I have never met watershed with that meaning. > Neither have I. Apart from the figurative meaning concerning > TV programmes, in BrE it always means the dividing line > between the area drained by two or more rivers. The hill that > can be seen from this house is the watershed between the > Severn and Thames catchment areas. The OED is in agreement with you and does not mention confluence tho' it does also give "the whole gathering ground of a river system". SignatureJames Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not > On 27 Mar 2010 "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> > >>4 : a crucial or dividing point, line, or factor <his achievement > >>would rank as a watershed in recent European history -- Newsweek> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >>also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their > >>waters. > > The usual term for the place where two (or more) rivers meet is > > "confluence". > > I would agree with this. Also, if you want to be obscure and archaic, > there is a place outside Tewkesbury, not far from here, called The > Mythe. > According to Wikipedia > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythe) Mythe is an Old English > word meaning the joining of two rivers, appropriate as this is where > the Avon flows into the Severn. Oh, thanks. I love old words. > > I have never met watershed with that meaning. > > Neither have I. Apart from the figurative meaning concerning TV > programmes, in BrE it always means the dividing line between the area > drained by two or more rivers. The hill that can be seen from this > house is the watershed between the Severn and Thames catchment areas. Thank you all. Marius Hancu >> The usual term for the place where two (or more) rivers meet is >> "confluence". As would I. > I would agree with this. Also, if you want to be obscure and archaic, > there is a place outside Tewkesbury, not far from here, called The > Mythe. According to Wikipedia > ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythe ) Mythe is an Old English > word meaning the joining of two rivers, appropriate as this is where > the Avon flows into the Severn. Ah, I'm familiar with the area but had no idea what the word meant. > Neither have I. Apart from the figurative meaning concerning TV > programmes, in BrE it always means the dividing line between the area > drained by two or more rivers. The hill that can be seen from this > house is the watershed between the Severn and Thames catchment areas. OT, but in the particular case of the English rivers it always amazes me how far west the important watersheds are. Even Andoversford - only a few miles from Gloucester - drains to the Thames. And the watershed between the Trent and the Weaver/Mersey is almost within sight of the sea. Regards Jonathan "Jonathan Morton" <jonathan.mortonbutignorethispart@btinternet.com> writes: >>> The usual term for the place where two (or more) rivers meet is >>> "confluence". [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ah, I'm familiar with the area but had no idea what the word meant. A bit lower down the Severn splits into two channels which join again. These are called the "Upper Parting" and the "Lower Parting". I've always found the second of those rather odd. SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk > "Jonathan Morton" <jonathan.mortonbutignorethispart@btinternet.com> > writes: >>>> The usual term for the place where two (or more) rivers meet is >>>> "confluence". [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Ah, I'm familiar with the area but had no idea what the word meant. > A bit lower down the Severn splits into two channels which join again. > These are called the "Upper Parting" and the "Lower Parting". I've > always found the second of those rather odd. I thought that these names referred to the places where the river divided and re-joined, rather than the two channels. However, I stand to be corrected. The Ordnance Survey map would seem to agree with me. With best wishes, Peter. SignaturePeter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004. (US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired. http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk Dr wrote on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:07:22 +0100: >> "Jonathan Morton" >> <jonathan.mortonbutignorethispart@btinternet.com> writes: >>>>> The usual term for the place where two (or more) rivers >>>>> meet is "confluence". [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>> Ah, I'm familiar with the area but had no idea what the word >>> meant. >> A bit lower down the Severn splits into two channels which >> join again. These are called the "Upper Parting" and the >> "Lower Parting". I've always found the second of those >> rather odd. > I thought that these names referred to the places where the > river divided and re-joined, rather than the two channels. > However, I stand to be corrected. The Ordnance Survey map > would seem to agree with me. The Irish poet, Thomas Moore, wrote a poem about "The Meeting of the Waters", in County Wicklow, which is sung to an old Irish tune. The place, where the rivers Avonbeag and Avonmhor meet, is of course, well equipped with tourist facilities and is otherwise rather pretty. There is a rather spectacular meeting of the waters where the black Rio Negro flows into the muddy Amazon River. SignatureJames Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not > Dr wrote on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:07:22 +0100: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >There is a rather spectacular meeting of the waters where the black Rio >Negro flows into the muddy Amazon River. I used to live near the confluence of the rivers Oise and Seine. Here's a picture: http://www.charles-francois-daubigny.org/The-Confluence-of-the-River-Seine-and-t he-River-Oise-large.html http://tinyurl.com/yhhu84e SignatureRobin (BrE) Herts, England >> A bit lower down the Severn splits into two channels which join again. >> These are called the "Upper Parting" and the "Lower Parting". I've [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > divided and re-joined, rather than the two channels. However, I stand > to be corrected. The Ordnance Survey map would seem to agree with me. That is certainly my understanding too. Curiously on the 1:50,000 OS, only the Lower Parting is labelled. My copy of Bradshaw describes the western channel as the Maisemore Channel (it is not navigable) and the eastern channel as the main navigation channel. Regards Jonathan (from further up the river - Worcester) >> "Jonathan Morton" <jonathan.mortonbutignorethispart@btinternet.com> >> writes: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > divided and re-joined, rather than the two channels. However, I stand > to be corrected. The Ordnance Survey map would seem to agree with me. I actually meant the places - it was poorly written. My OS Explorer 179 calls them the "East Channel" and, well you can guess. SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk >>> A bit lower down the Severn splits into two channels which join again. >>> These are called the "Upper Parting" and the "Lower Parting". I've [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I actually meant the places - it was poorly written. My OS Explorer 179 > calls them the "East Channel" and, well you can guess. Actually I can now see what Nick meant by the two "Partings" being odd. The second should be a reunion - but it depends which way you are travelling, of course. Regards Jonathan In our last episode, <d1a047d8-9ac3-476c-9fe7-89bd1f94f52e@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, the lovely and talented Marius Hancu broadcast on alt.usage.english: > Hello: > I'm not sure if: > --- > watershed > 1 : WATER PARTING > 2 : a region or area bounded peripherally by a water parting and > draining ultimately to a particular watercourse or body of water : the > catchment area or drainage basin from which the waters of a stream or > stream system are drawn > 3 : something (as a sloping contour or member) introduced into a > structure primarily to shed or throw off water <a narrow watershed > over a car window> > 4 : a crucial or dividing point, line, or factor <his achievement > would rank as a watershed in recent European history -- Newsweek> ><without crossing the watershed of war -- H.L.Stimson> <the watershed > moments of history -- C.H.Sykes> > M-W U > --- > also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their > waters. Two rivers that meet are necessarily in the same watershed, but the place that they meet is the confluence. SignatureLars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> Warbama's Afghaninam day: 115 2778.4 hours since Warbama declared Viet Nam II. Warbama: An LBJ for the Twenty-First century. No hope. No change. >In our last episode, ><d1a047d8-9ac3-476c-9fe7-89bd1f94f52e@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Two rivers that meet are necessarily in the same watershed. Well, taking the meaning as a catchment area, the rivers are in distinct watersheds separated by a watershed (taking the meaning as a divide). But taken together they would contitute a larger watershed (taking the meaning as a catchment area)consisting of the two smaller watersheds. The Mississippi watershed (taken as a catchment area) consists of the watersheds of the Mississippi, Missouri and Ohio Rivers taken together. All of which can lead to considerable confusion unless everyone is in agreement about what is being talked about. >but the place that they meet is the confluence. At least there's little confusion about what a confluence is. Signature************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * Hatunen filted: >>but the place that they meet is the confluence. > >At least there's little confusion about what a confluence is. After Hurricane Katrina, did any reporter manage to sneak past a headline about "changes in the delta"?...r Signature"Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle > Hatunen filted: >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > After Hurricane Katrina, did any reporter manage to sneak past a headline about > "changes in the delta"?...r Oh, excellent. Save that one up for the next natural disaster. SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. >> Hatunen filted: >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > Oh, excellent. Save that one up for the next natural disaster. It's such a mathgeek joke it would be easy to slip by. SignatureWe only remembers that the elves sang. We forgets what it was they were singing about. --Lords and Ladies >>> Hatunen filted: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>> >> Oh, excellent. Save that one up for the next natural disaster. > It's such a mathgeek joke it would be easy to slip by. That, and apparently in the South they use the word "delta" to mean the floodplane far inland, not merely the bit around the mouth. SignatureLars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> Warbama's Afghaninam day: 116 2792.8 hours since Warbama declared Viet Nam II. Warbama: An LBJ for the Twenty-First century. No hope. No change. >> Hatunen filted: >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >Oh, excellent. Save that one up for the next natural disaster. Changes in the Mississippi delta are so common the don't rate much of a mention except to people in the delta. Now when the Red River control structure finally fails you'll see a change in the delta that will get a lot of news coverage, since the Mississippi's flow will shift tens of miles to the west. Signature************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * >>but the place that they meet is the confluence. > >At least there's little confusion about what a confluence is. There is also a convention that, when two rivers join, the combined flow takes the name of the longer of its tributaries. This hasn't always happened in the past, as witness the lower Mississippi (should be the Missouri, but nobody knew that the Missouri was much longer than the upper Mississippi at the time it was named). Pittsburgh is located at the confluence of the Monongahela (or "Mon") and the Allegheny, but the resulting waterway is the Ohio. And sometimes we add distinguishing bits to the names of rivers, so that we don't confuse the Red River with the Red River of the North. (The former is part of the Mississippi-Missouri-Red system[1]; the latter drains into Lake Winnipeg and ultimately Hudson's Bay.) -GAWollman [1] Which reminds me: what ever happened to the trend of naming companies "Something-or-other System"? ComEnergy System, Chessie System, and Seaboard System are all gone. Ryder System is apparently still around. SignatureGarrett A. Wollman | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft wollman@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993 >>>but the place that they meet is the confluence. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > be the Missouri, but nobody knew that the Missouri was much longer > than the upper Mississippi at the time it was named). I have often wondered about that point. Sometimes the combined river may have a third name. The Ouse and Trent combine in the Humber - not really a river at all as both the Trent and the Ouse are tidal above the confluence. Regards Jonathan >>>>but the place that they meet is the confluence. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >combine in the Humber - not really a river at all as both the Trent and the >Ouse are tidal above the confluence. The Mersey starts in Stockport at the confluence of the Tame and The Goyt. And then there is the Amazon... SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:35:03 +0100, "Jonathan Morton" > [ ... ] >> Sometimes the combined river may have a third name. The Ouse and Trent >> combine in the Humber - not really a river at all as both the Trent and the >> Ouse are tidal above the confluence. >> > The Mersey starts in Stockport at the confluence of the Tame and The > Goyt. OK, but would you actually say that (other than in addressing a group of geographers)? I would say The Mersey starts in Stockport at the place where the Tame and the Goyt meet WIWAL we use to have picnics occasionally along the Goyt. I had no idea that I was picnicking on the upper reaches of the Mersey. Signatureathel >> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:35:03 +0100, "Jonathan Morton" >> [ ... ] [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > The Mersey starts in Stockport at the place where the Tame and the Goyt meet So would I. >WIWAL we use to have picnics occasionally along the Goyt. I had no idea >that I was picnicking on the upper reaches of the Mersey. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) On Mar 28, 3:42 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote: > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:51:38 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > So would I. Wouldn't you omit "at the place"? The Mersey starts in Stockport where the Tame and Goyt meet. That seems a more natural speech to me. -- franzi >On Mar 28, 3:42 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >Wouldn't you omit "at the place"? The Mersey starts in Stockport where >the Tame and Goyt meet. That seems a more natural speech to me. An editing relic. I was intending to specify the location. I once stood at the side of a road by the meeting point and watched the two streams of water coming together. There has been major construction work since then and I couldn't find the location on a map. I think the confluence is in the same place but the surroundings may have changed. So "the place" finished up as a placeholder for details of the location. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <mail@peterduncanson.net>: >>On Mar 28, 3:42 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >is in the same place but the surroundings may have changed. So "the >place" finished up as a placeholder for details of the location. The confluence is an uninspiring concrete-lined channel beside the M60. http://tinyurl.com/ygrtl9k Tame from the N; Goyt from the E; Mersey to the W. SignatureMike Barnes Cheshire, England >"Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <mail@peterduncanson.net>: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Tame from the N; Goyt from the E; Mersey to the W. I saw it before that motorway was constructed, which is why I was a little disoriented looking at today's map. Your description of an "uninspiring concrete-lined channel" certainly fits my recollection. The motorway name M60 confused me temporarily. It was originally M63. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) > On Mar 28, 3:42 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Wouldn't you omit "at the place"? The Mersey starts in Stockport where > the Tame and Goyt meet. That seems a more natural speech to me. To me too. I don't recall why I didn't write that. Signatureathel >>> The Mersey starts in Stockport at the confluence of the Tame and The >>> Goyt. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > So would I. I really like the sound of the word "confluence", but I might avoid it in a situation where I wanted to avoid being regarded as a show-off. SignatureCivilization is a race between catastrophe and education. [H G Wells] > >>> The Mersey starts in Stockport at the confluence of the Tame and The > >>> Goyt. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I really like the sound of the word "confluence", but I might avoid it > in a situation where I wanted to avoid being regarded as a show-off. Where one river is much smaller than the other, I'd like to propose "influence" instead. An unequal confluence, but on similar principles. I looked in the dictionary to see if I was too late, but apart from a brief delay at "in flagrante", I found nothing of interest. "Influx" seems not to mean quite what I have in mind. -- franzi >>>> The Mersey starts in Stockport at the confluence of the Tame and The >>>> Goyt. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>> >> So would I. > I really like the sound of the word "confluence", but I might avoid it > in a situation where I wanted to avoid being regarded as a show-off. It doesn't strike me as a show-off word at all. SignatureIs this the light of a new day dawning? A future bright that you can walk in? No, it's just another Monday Morning, do it all over again! >>>>but the place that they meet is the confluence. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> be the Missouri, but nobody knew that the Missouri was much longer >> than the upper Mississippi at the time it was named). > Sometimes the combined river may have a third name. The Ouse and > Trent combine in the Humber - not really a river at all as both the > Trent and the Ouse are tidal above the confluence. Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh is seen from the bluffs above the city. The title commemorates the point at which the Allegheny and the Monongahela meet to form the Ohio River. In the park at that point of confluence, the English built Fort Pitt. I wonder when the city founders added the "-sburgh" In another subthread someone mentioned "Riversmeet": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watersmeet_Township,_Michigan From a different site: "Watersmeet Michigan welcomes you to year-round vacation enjoyment. From Watersmeet, the Ontonagon River flows north into Lake Superior. The Wisconsin River flows south into the Mississippi River, and the Paint River flows east into Lake Michigan. This is "where the waters meet"! ------------ But really, they are describing a "divide" between three watersheds (where waterspart)...or just two if you assume the Atlantic differs from the Gulf/Caribbean, or even just one, since all of the water eventually ends up in the Atlantic, but then, the whole world is one water, isn't it? http://www.lake-link.com/maps/lake.cfm?LakeID=5231&View=Area_Map Watersmeet Lake in Vilas County, WI. I am not sure when I first heard the word "watersmeet", but I think it might have been in some poem or in a biblical tract. > >> In article <qulsq5hvvb2k0c12856q58chbo7dkqh...@4ax.com>, > >>>>but the place that they meet is the confluence. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > I am not sure when I first heard the word "watersmeet", but I think it > might have been in some poem or in a biblical tract. Well, I've just found it in the dictionary:-) ----- watersmeet Function: noun : a meeting place of two rivers <each of these torrents ran down a gorge of its own, the one on the east, the other on the west of the watersmeet -- Hilaire Belloc> M-W U ------ Great find. Thank you all. Marius Hancu > Well, I've just found it in the dictionary:-) > ----- [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > M-W U > ------ The Bridgewater Canal calls its two major junctions "Stretford Waters Meeting" and "Preston Brook Waters Meeting". I don't know of any other canal to use that terminology, but have always found it rather poetic. SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk > I am not sure when I first heard the word "watersmeet", but I think it > might have been in some poem or in a biblical tract. I am almost certain this word occurs in Tolkien's /The Lord of the Rings/, but not having the book in front of me, I can only say that google fails to support my memory. Wikipedia does, however, mention that JRRT based Elrond's house on Watersmeet Lodge in Devon, UK. And google books finds the word five times in E.R. Eddison's /The Worm Ouroboros/, which would seem to imply that I am conflating my fantasies... Jim Deutch (JimboCat) -- "Wikipedia. The roulette wheel of knowledge." --Blair P. Houghton "Jonathan Morton" <jonathan.mortonbutignorethispart@btinternet.com> writes: >>>>but the place that they meet is the confluence. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > combine in the Humber - not really a river at all as both the Trent and the > Ouse are tidal above the confluence. The Ouse is particularly interesting - it starts where a very small stream, the Ouse Gill Beck, flows into the River Ure, whereupon the Ure changes its name to the Ouse. SignatureOnline waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk > The Mississippi watershed (taken as a catchment area) consists of > the watersheds of the Mississippi, Missouri and Ohio Rivers taken > together. You left out the Arkansas! (Hey, it's at least as cool as the Ohion, sheesh!) SignatureA lot of people and the smell of sausages meant a performance of the street theatre that was life in Ankh-Morpork. --Feet of Clay >> The Mississippi watershed (taken as a catchment area) consists of >> the watersheds of the Mississippi, Missouri and Ohio Rivers taken >> together. > >You left out the Arkansas! (Hey, it's at least as cool as the Ohion, >sheesh!) I left out the Yazoo, too. Signature************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * > In our last episode, > <d1a047d8-9ac3-476c-9fe7-89bd1f94f52e@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Two rivers that meet are necessarily in the same watershed, but the place > that they meet is the confluence. I'm not sure how much the term "confluence" is used in BrE -- I've only ever met it in AmE. The place in Devon where the East Dart meets the West Dart is called Dartmeet, but that's a specific term, of course, not a generic one. I don't know if there are other similar examples. Signatureathel > also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their > waters. That is called a confluence. SignatureNational Socialism is not Socialism, any more than the Black Panthers were actually cats. @jearl >> also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their >> waters. > >That is called a confluence. I know a farm called "Riversmeet", which contains a confluence. SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Steve Hayes filted: >>> also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their >>> waters. >> >>That is called a confluence. > >I know a farm called "Riversmeet", which contains a confluence. At 33.180089 N, 108.205891 W, you will find the confluence of the West Fork Gila River and the East Fork Gila River, where they join to form the Gila River...(a few miles upstream, the WFGR has already incorporated the flow of the Middle Fork Gila River)....r Signature"Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Thanks. > Marius Hancu The meeting point of two rivers is a confluence. The city of Koblenz, or Coblence in the French spelling derives its name from the Latin Confluentes, the meeting point of the Moselle with the Rhine. The word watershed has developed two contradictory meanings in BrE and AmE. In BrE the word retains the meaning from the Germanic root -scheid meaning to divide or split, as in the verb scheiden, meaning to divorce in the modern language. So a watershed (German: Wasserscheide) is the division line between two drainage basins. In AmE the term watershed refers to the drainage basin itself. T. On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:51:37 +0100, Tom P <werotizy@freent.dd> >The word watershed has developed two contradictory meanings in BrE and >AmE. In BrE the word retains the meaning from the Germanic root -scheid >meaning to divide or split, as in the verb scheiden, meaning to divorce >in the modern language. So a watershed (German: Wasserscheide) is the >division line between two drainage basins. In AmE the term watershed >refers to the drainage basin itself. Except when it refers to the divide. Signature************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * > Hello: > > I'm not sure if: > --- > watershed [...] > also works for the place where two rivers meet and combine their > waters. No. The watershed is the line formed by the _high_ points that separate two regions. (Such that water falling on one side of the line flows in one direction, and water falling on the other side flows in a different direction.) You're talking about the low point. SignaturePeter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. |
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