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Marius Hancu - 28 Jun 2010 12:55 GMT
Hello:

"denies cert"
what does it mean, denies taking up the case?

"cert" might mean "certiorari," not sure.
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[Big oil case in appeal]

“But what if the Supreme Court refused to hear the case?”

“He’s in good shape if the Fifth Circuit affirms the trial verdict.
But if it reverses, and the Supreme Court denies cert, he’s got
problems. My guess is that he would go back to square one, stir up
some new litigation, and try it all again. There’s too much money
involved to lick his wounds and go home."

John Grisham, The Pelican Brief
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 28 Jun 2010 13:39 GMT
>Hello:
>
>"denies cert"
>what does it mean, denies taking up the case?
>
>"cert" might mean "certiorari," not sure.

"certiorari" is, to me, the most likely meaning.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/certiorari

   a writ of superior court to call up the records of an inferior court

If the Supreme Court refuse to issue a writ of certiorari it is in
effect refusing to examine the decision of the inferior court (in this
case the Fifth Circuit court).

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>[Big oil case in appeal]
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>John Grisham, The Pelican Brief
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Peter Duncanson, UK
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Cece - 28 Jun 2010 19:28 GMT
On Jun 28, 7:39 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:55:24 -0700 (PDT), Marius Hancu
>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Peter Duncanson, UK
> (in alt.usage.english)

That's it exactly.
Marius Hancu - 28 Jun 2010 20:05 GMT
> On Jun 28, 7:39 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
> wrote:

> > >"denies cert"
> > >what does it mean, denies taking up the case?
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> > >some new litigation, and try it all again. There’s too much money
> > >involved to lick his wounds and go home."

> That's it exactly.

Thank you both.
Marius Hancu
Garrett Wollman - 28 Jun 2010 22:23 GMT
>Hello:
>
>"denies cert"
>what does it mean, denies taking up the case?
>
>"cert" might mean "certiorari," not sure.

As the others in the thread have indicated, this is correct.  The
United States Supreme Court has, at the moment, very few cases that it
must, by law, decide.  It did not start out that way: in the first
century of the Court's existence, most of its docket was appeals "as a
matter of right".  But once the United States Courts of Appeals were
created, which relieved the justices of their duty to "ride circuit",
it was recognized that there was no need for the Supreme Court to hear
every case -- so long as the Circuit Courts had all come to the same
conclusion, there was nothing for the Supreme Court to add.  So, after
some lobbying by the Court, Congress eliminated much of its mandatory
jurisdiction.  The losing party in the Court of Appeals -- or in their
state's highest court -- may petition the Supreme Court for a writ of
certiorari, which historically directed the lower court to send its
files on the case to the Supreme Court for review.  (Today the
petitioner is required to include nearly everything with the initial
petition, but the writ remains the same.)

There are still a few matters for which statute provides
appeal-as-of-right to the Supreme Court, including questions of
election law which are decided by a panel of three district judges.
There are also a very few matters for which the Supreme Court has
exclusive and original jurisdiction, notably disputes between the
states.

Coincidentally, today the Court announced its final four decisions of
the October term.  Tomorrow it will release a final set of orders and
then rise until the first Monday in October.

-GAWollman

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Marius Hancu - 30 Jun 2010 11:18 GMT
> >"denies cert"
> >what does it mean, denies taking up the case?
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> exclusive and original jurisdiction, notably disputes between the
> states.

Thanks for the details.
Marius Hancu
Jonathan Morton - 30 Jun 2010 20:33 GMT
> There are also a very few matters for which the Supreme Court has
> exclusive and original jurisdiction, notably disputes between the
> states.

Interesting. I never knew that. When was the last time that that particular
jurisdiction was invoked?

Regards

Jonathan
Garrett Wollman - 30 Jun 2010 20:53 GMT
>> There are also a very few matters for which the Supreme Court has
>> exclusive and original jurisdiction, notably disputes between the
>> states.
>
>Interesting. I never knew that. When was the last time that that particular
>jurisdiction was invoked?

There is usually a case or two every term -- normally the dispute is
over water rights or territorial boundaries.  There are a number
currently ongoing; the way the Court usually deals with them is by
appointing a "Special Master" to take evidence and write a report,
which the Court then approves or rejects.  One such case ongoing right
now is South Carolina v. North Carolina (138 Original), which
considers the rights of both states and some non-state intervenors in
the flow of the Catawba River (which rises in NC and flows into SC).
That suit has been ongoing since 2007, and is currently being reviewed
by the Special Master after an earlier decision of the Court this year
permitting two of the three prospective intervenors to participate in
the case.

-GAWollman

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Garrett A. Wollman    | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft
wollman@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program
Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption
my employers.         | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993

Jonathan Morton - 30 Jun 2010 22:59 GMT
>>> There are also a very few matters for which the Supreme Court has
>>> exclusive and original jurisdiction, notably disputes between the
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> permitting two of the three prospective intervenors to participate in
> the case.

Thanks for that.

Jonathan
 
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