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Love your Life by Thoreau

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Yilaner - 29 Jul 2010 15:00 GMT
"The town's poor seem to me often to live the most
independent lives of any. May be they are simply
great enough to receive without misgiving. Most
think that they are above being supported by the
town; but it often happens that they are not above
supporting themselves by dishonest means. which
should be more disreputable."
                                     ---Henry David Thoreau

What does "above being supported by the town"
mean here? I don't quite understand what Thoreau
was trying to say about the poor here. Please help
me out, thanks!
Ray OHara - 29 Jul 2010 15:24 GMT
> "The town's poor seem to me often to live the most
> independent lives of any. May be they are simply
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> was trying to say about the poor here. Please help
> me out, thanks!

They see taking charity provided by the town as demeaning.
To hold yourself above something is to hold yourself as superior to it.
DanS. - 29 Jul 2010 17:14 GMT
Yilaner added the following to the totality of all human wisdom on
7/29/2010 in writing
> "The town's poor seem to me often to live the most
> independent lives of any. May be they are simply
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> was trying to say about the poor here. Please help
> me out, thanks!

They are not ashamed to take charity.

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AMANDA: I don't understand you, Laura.  You couldn't be satisfied with
just sitting home, and yet whenever I try to arrange something for you,
you seem to resist it. [She gets up.]  Now take  a look at yourself.
No, wait!  Wait just a moment -- I have an idea!

LAURA; What is it now?

[Amanda produces two powder puffs, which she wraps in hankerchiefs and
stuffs in Laura's bosom.]

LAURA: Mother, what are you doing?

AMANDA: They call them "Gay Deceivers"!

LAURA; I won't wear them!

AMANDA: You will!

LAURA: Why should I?

AMANDA: Because, to be painfully honest, your chest is flat.

LAURA: You make it seem like we're setting a trap.

AMANDA: All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them
to be.

- The Glass Menagerie

DanS. - 29 Jul 2010 17:25 GMT
DanS. added the following to the totality of all human wisdom on
7/29/2010 in writing
> Yilaner added the following to the totality of all human wisdom on 7/29/2010
> in writing
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>
> They are not ashamed to take charity.

Oh, and they are also apt to steal or otherwise misappropriate things.

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AMANDA: You are the only young man that I know of who ignores the fact
that the future becomes the present, the present the past, and the past
turns into everlasting regret if you don't plan for it!

TOM: I will think that over and see what I can make of it.

- The Glass Menagerie

Cheryl P. - 29 Jul 2010 17:42 GMT
> Yilaner added the following to the totality of all human wisdom on
> 7/29/2010 in writing
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>
> They are not ashamed to take charity.

The reverse, surely. They are ashamed to take charity - but they are not
ashamed to steal, even though it should be considered far worse to steal
than to accept charity.

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DanS. - 29 Jul 2010 17:43 GMT
Cheryl P. added the following to the totality of all human wisdom on
7/29/2010 in writing
>> Yilaner added the following to the totality of all human wisdom on
>> 7/29/2010 in writing
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> ashamed to steal, even though it should be considered far worse to steal than
> to accept charity.

Correct.  Thanks for pointing that out.

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can't.

mm - 30 Jul 2010 04:47 GMT
>> Yilaner added the following to the totality of all human wisdom on
>> 7/29/2010 in writing
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>
>The reverse, surely. They are ashamed to take charity

They *would be* ashamed to take charity, but they don't take it.
They are above all that. "Better than that."

>- but they are not
>ashamed to steal, even though it should be considered far worse to steal
>than to accept charity.

Those are your bourgeois values. :)  Stealing take initiative and
cleverness.

And that's why it is less of a paradox. They only do what they are not
ashamed to do.
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