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Marius Hancu - 29 Sep 2010 10:57 GMT
Hello:

What's the exact meaning of "Why?" here?
Seems to be
"What?" or "How?"

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[Lucy comes back to her friends from Narnia]

“It’s all right,” she repeated, “I’ve come back.”

“What on earth are you talking about, Lucy?” asked Susan.

“Why ? said Lucy in amazement, “haven’t you all been wondering where I
was?”

“So you’ve been hiding, have you?” said Peter

C. S. Lewis, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe -
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Donna Richoux - 29 Sep 2010 11:14 GMT
> What's the exact meaning of "Why?" here?
> Seems to be
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> ----
> ---
Like "My," "Why--" is an almost meaningless noise of surprise. Lucy is
astonished they have not noticed her absence.

Historically, I imagine that both "Why--" and "My--" came from sentences
or phrases that were not finished, such as "Why on earth do you ask?"
"My word!"

Well, gosh, and huh/hmm are even more meaningless expressions of mild
surprise, uttered while one gathers one's thoughts.

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Peter Moylan - 29 Sep 2010 22:30 GMT
>> What's the exact meaning of "Why?" here?
>> Seems to be
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> Like "My," "Why--" is an almost meaningless noise of surprise. Lucy is
> astonished they have not noticed her absence.

That's a typically AmE use of the word, though, so I'm surprised to see
Lewis using it.

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Lewis - 29 Sep 2010 11:18 GMT
> Hello:

> What's the exact meaning of "Why?" here?
> Seems to be
> "What?" or "How?"

No, it means "Why?" as in "why would you say that?"

Lucy has been gone for hours and hours, but Susan's question doesn't
make sense to Lucy.

> ---
> [Lucy comes back to her friends from Narnia]

> “It’s all right,” she repeated, “I’ve come back.”

> “What on earth are you talking about, Lucy?” asked Susan.

> “Why ? said Lucy in amazement, “haven’t you all been wondering where I
> was?”

> “So you’ve been hiding, have you?” said Peter

Conversationally this feels to me to be only slightly BrE, though i am
not the best person to judge that.

"Did you clean your room?"

"Why? Didn't you see the patch of carpet I exposed?"

It implies a certain level of incredulity to the question asked.

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Marius Hancu - 29 Sep 2010 11:21 GMT
> > What's the exact meaning of "Why?" here?
> > Seems to be
> > "What?" or "How?"
>
> No, it means "Why?" as in "why would you say that?"

OK, makes sense.

> Lucy has been gone for hours and hours, but Susan's question doesn't
> make sense to Lucy.
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>
> It implies a certain level of incredulity to the question asked.

I see the point.

Thank you both.
Marius Hancu
the Omrud - 29 Sep 2010 12:53 GMT
> In message
> <8a448d1d-b777-4d23-a62f-142aab089bd6@h7g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
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>
> It implies a certain level of incredulity to the question asked.

No, that's not it - it's the exclamation use of Why?, not a real
interrogation.

E.g:

- Why, what a big boy you are!

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Mack A. Damia - 29 Sep 2010 12:59 GMT
>> In message
>> <8a448d1d-b777-4d23-a62f-142aab089bd6@h7g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
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>
>- Why, what a big boy you are!

Respectfully disagree.

The "Why?" is merely a shortened exclamation of, "Why are you asking
me this?"
Roland Hutchinson - 29 Sep 2010 15:14 GMT
>>> In message
>>> <8a448d1d-b777-4d23-a62f-142aab089bd6@h7g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
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> The "Why?" is merely a shortened exclamation of, "Why are you asking me
> this?"

It seems it would have to be that because of the punctuation.  The
exclamation (interjection) would be followed by a comma, not a question
mark, as the OED citations elsethread show, or a dash, as another poster
used.

On the other hand, thing are not always what the seem, and the
interjection seems to make better sense in context, at least to me.

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Glenn Knickerbocker - 29 Sep 2010 18:48 GMT
> On the other hand, thing are not always what the seem, and the
> interjection seems to make better sense in context, at least to me.

The punctuation may not even be what it seems.  The missing quotation
mark and inconsistent spacing suggest to me that whatever was in the
scanned source wasn't recognized by the OCR.  The 2004 HarperCollins
edition with previews available at Google Books has a comma here (but
other editions do have a question mark).

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Lewis - 29 Sep 2010 15:18 GMT
>> In message
>> <8a448d1d-b777-4d23-a62f-142aab089bd6@h7g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
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>>
>> It implies a certain level of incredulity to the question asked.

> No, that's not it - it's the exclamation use of Why?, not a real
> interrogation.

> E.g:

> - Why, what a big boy you are!

But it was "Why? Haven't you all been wondering where I was?"

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the Omrud - 29 Sep 2010 15:27 GMT
>>> In message
>>> <8a448d1d-b777-4d23-a62f-142aab089bd6@h7g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
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>
> But it was "Why? Haven't you all been wondering where I was?"

Not quite - there's no capital H for "haven't".  But I take your point
and I'd accept either interpretation.

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John O'Flaherty - 29 Sep 2010 16:10 GMT
>>> In message
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>
>But it was "Why? Haven't you all been wondering where I was?"

So, C.S. Lewis has used an unusual punctuation for the interjection,
or has used an unusual separation and punctuation for the question
"Why haven't you all been wondering...". Maybe he wanted to show a
relationship between the two patterns.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 29 Sep 2010 12:26 GMT
>Hello:
>
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>Thanks.
>Marius Hancu

This seems to be a use of "why" defined by the OED as:

   IV. 7. Used interjectionally, before a sentence or clause.
   a.  As an expression of surprise (sometimes only momentary or
   slight; sometimes involving protest), either in reply to a remark or
   question, or on perceiving something unexpected.

The most recent of about ten quotations:

   1837 DICKENS Pickw. xxxix, 'Goodness gracious!' said Mary,.. 'Why,
   it's that very house.'

   1847 DE QUINCEY Secret Soc. Wks. 1890 VII. 217 Were there no such
   people as the Essenes? Why, no; not as Josephus described them.

   1863 KINGSLEY Water-Bab. iii, And, as he spoke, he turned quite
   pale, and then quite white. 'Why, you're ill!' said Tom.

   1893 M. PEMBERTON Iron Pirate i, Mary looked up suddenly..and
   said,..'Why, I believe I've been asleep!'

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Mark Brader - 29 Sep 2010 18:13 GMT
Marius Hancu asks about:
> >"Why ? said Lucy in amazement, "haven't you all been wondering where I
> >was?"

Peter Duncanson (and Donna Richoux) write:
> This seems to be a use of "why" defined by the OED as:
>
>     IV. 7. Used interjectionally, before a sentence or clause.
>     a.  As an expression of surprise (sometimes only momentary or
>     slight; sometimes involving protest), either in reply to a remark or
>     question, or on perceiving something unexpected.

No.  If that it was the meaning, the first "?" wouldn't be there.

As Steve and Lewis said in their responses, this is just short for
"Why are you asking me that?"
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 29 Sep 2010 19:30 GMT
>Marius Hancu asks about:
>> >"Why ? said Lucy in amazement, "haven't you all been wondering where I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>No.  If that it was the meaning, the first "?" wouldn't be there.

I think you might be right,

>As Steve and Lewis said in their responses, this is just short for
>"Why are you asking me that?"

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Steve Hayes - 29 Sep 2010 17:09 GMT
>Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>“Why ? said Lucy in amazement, “haven’t you all been wondering where I
>was?”

May be expanded to "Why do you ask that?"

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