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Juan Ant. - 10 Jul 2005 19:36 GMT
Hi you all. I'm a 27 years old spanish man (Spain, Europe), who has
learned the english language mainly by reading a lot of things on
Internet. I can read, more or less I can write, but I have a huge
problem when it comes to listening.

I've tried to improve my listening level with internet radios, and I
know it's a good way, but sometimes I get terrifically lost, because I
don't understand most of the words.

I think it'd be great if I could visit some sites on the Internet which
offer english talk, but I can read the conversation at the same time,
so I can learn the way words have to be pronounced, and that will help
me in future listenings.

Do you know what I mean? Can you give me any advice and/or any web site
to go?

Thank you all very much!
Django Cat - 10 Jul 2005 20:05 GMT
>Hi you all. I'm a 27 years old spanish man (Spain, Europe), who has
>learned the english language mainly by reading a lot of things on
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>Thank you all very much!

Loads of good internet audio, specifically aimed at learners, on the
BBC Learn English page:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/index.shtml

DC
Juan Ant. - 10 Jul 2005 21:10 GMT
Yeah, that's a great site, and I use to go there often. But I'm not
sure if there are audio files with their transcript to read while
listening.

Thank you Django!
Owain - 10 Jul 2005 22:36 GMT
> Yeah, that's a great site, and I use to go there often. But I'm not
> sure if there are audio files with their transcript to read while
> listening.

There are some in the Watch and Listen section at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/multimedia/index.shtml

For example, in the Beyond The Postcard section talking about British
towns and cities, there are pop-up vocabularies, and sections of text
where you can read the text, listen to it being read, and check your
listening by selecting correct words. There are also comprehension
exercises.

Owain
Juan Ant. - 10 Jul 2005 23:20 GMT
Thank you Owain, I've found it very helpful. It looks like there is a
lot of material to practice listening. And learning about british
cities is interesting too (i've listened a bit about Edinburgh :-) )

And beyond BBC, do you guys know any site with audio (and transcripts
of the audio), which is not intented to english learners?. Some months
ago, I found The Merrow Report, a U.S. radio program. You can download
the past shows, and the transcripts. Do you know anything like that?

Thank you all for your help!
credoquaabsurdum - 11 Jul 2005 00:51 GMT
There are two avenues I often recommend to students like you.

First of all, if you enjoy watching English-language films, you can
rent DVDs with English subtitles. Should you choose to acquire these
DVDs, make sure that you get ones with English subtitles on them, of
course! The transcription on these is often not perfect, and that
provides plenty of opportunities for you to stretch yourself instead of
simply focusing on the subtitles and not matching them up to what you
hear. The fast-forward and rewind features can also be used far more
effectively than on VCRs.

That's wonderful for lower levels of linguistic proficiency and for
acquiring a basic understanding of the gestures that typically
accompany speech. It will not really help you with more complicated
English. If you're interested in really reaching for the stars, the
next level is to get a "great literary classic" on tape and go out and
buy the book cheaply in a paperback edition. Work through the book
chapter by chapter, mining the lexical gold as you go by means of a
good learner's dictionary and Internet resources (such as asking
questions in this group).

In point of fact, many simplified readers are sold (the major companies
that put them out are Oxford and Cambridge University Press,
Longman/Penguin, and Macmillan) with cassettes. The readers are graded
so that you can start off with simpler ones and move into others as you
achieve higher levels of listening ability.

After you get done with whatever great classics you prefer, you can
move into more specialized titles in modern fiction and non-fiction.
Just buy the book and read along as you listen, stopping the CD
wherever you wish to make notes.

Research in this shows that if you do not understand 95% of the key
vocabulary in a listening text, your mind will simply shut down and
stop accepting input. It's a bit discouraging to find yourself in the
middle of a CNN program and then feel the bar drop on your
understanding. Working with transcripts in this manner is far more
motivating.

By the way, if you prefer working on-line (and getting something for
nothing), you can find some books on tape on Kazaa and you can download
the text of most eighteenth-century novels for nothing nowadays. Some
Google searches and you'll be home free!

Good luck.

> Thank you Owain, I've found it very helpful. It looks like there is a
> lot of material to practice listening. And learning about british
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> Thank you all for your help!
Lion - 11 Jul 2005 06:33 GMT
"Juan Ant." <barni07@gmail.com> wrote .
> Hi you all. I'm a 27 years old spanish man (Spain, Europe), who has
> learned the english language mainly by reading a lot of things on
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> Do you know what I mean? Can you give me any advice and/or any web site
> to go?

One of the ways is to get to know an English girl and have good English
conversations with her of course.

Lion
Juan Ant. - 12 Jul 2005 19:06 GMT
Thank you very much credoquaabsurdum. I'm going to take notice of you,
and start watching english-spoken movies.

I will combine that with some radio, reading, chatting, and browsing
and asking questions in this group.

See you soon guys!
credoquaabsurdum - 12 Jul 2005 23:32 GMT
> Thank you very much credoquaabsurdum. I'm going to take notice of you,
> and start watching english-spoken movies.
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> See you soon guys!

You're welcome very much, Juan.
credoquaabsurdum - 12 Jul 2005 23:32 GMT
> Thank you very much credoquaabsurdum. I'm going to take notice of you,
> and start watching english-spoken movies.
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>
> See you soon guys!

You're welcome very much, Juan. Good luck and we'll be waiting for you.
mossmanresources@istop.com - 17 Jul 2005 19:07 GMT
Hello Juan!,

I have some online English lessons that feature lengthy English Dialog
audio clips.  The question format is that you will hear an audio clip
and then will be expected to respond to the dialog.  There is
corresponding audio text (e.g. the audio dialog typed out) if you have
problems hearing the audio passages.

If you want to make things harder than set the "Show Text" box to
"No", which will cause the audio text to be hidden and, as a
result, you will have to rely solely on your listing skills.  Just make
sure your computer speakers are turned up load enough!  My students
have improved both their listing skills and vocabulary by attempting
these free lessons.  Here is the address:
http://www.mossmanresources.com/challenge/

P.S. You need Sun Java installed on your computer, if you do not yet
have it you will be asked to install it when you launch an exercise for
the first time.
Juan Ant. - 18 Jul 2005 22:38 GMT
Thank you! I'll give it a go, and tell you about my progress.

See you ;)
 
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