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Dallas - 02 Aug 2005 15:19 GMT
Hello everybody,

Well, I've just join in and could thought of nothing special to say. so
to begin with I'm an Applied Linguistics Graduate. Would write more
later!
credoquaabsurdum - 03 Aug 2005 02:19 GMT
> Hello everybody,
>
> Well, I've just join in and could thought of nothing special to say. so
> to begin with I'm an Applied Linguistics Graduate. Would write more
> later!

Greetings and welcome! Where do you work?
Dallas - 04 Aug 2005 04:01 GMT
Thanks. I work in Abu Dabi right now. What about you?
credoquaabsurdum - 04 Aug 2005 21:16 GMT
> Thanks. I work in Abu Dabi right now. What about you?

Athens, Greece, for the last five years. Do you teach any kinds of
specific classes in general? My field of focus is high-stakes test
preparation: generally, I get teenagers and young adults ready for
public examinations like Cambridge Main Suite tests, TOEFL, TOEIC, that
sort of thing.
Dallas - 05 Aug 2005 03:24 GMT
That's great. Yeah, I teach Methodology and Psycholinguistics
presently. My main interest is Psycho, though. Communication strategies
lets say. Do you do test construction as well?
credoquaabsurdum - 08 Aug 2005 00:24 GMT
> That's great. Yeah, I teach Methodology and Psycholinguistics
> presently. My main interest is Psycho, though. Communication strategies
> lets say. Do you do test construction as well?

ABSOLUTELY NOT. I have to maintain a passing familiarity with Lyle S.
Bachman and company in order to understand many of the stated aims of
Cambridge ESOL, but I am most definitely not involved in test design.
The evil that has been done to Greece by the botched work of
psychometricians in service to the arrogant belief that language
proficiency as a phenomenon CAN be rated, marked and graded objectively
is profound.

Yes, I know, theoreticians humbly protest that indeed, their work is
far from done and that an utterly objective view of language
proficiency has never truly been their aim, but I work in a country
where a teenager's family pays five thousand euros in order for that
teenager to be prepared for a single test like the FCE. If you follow
the conversation of the driver less and watch the meter more around
here, you learn all kinds of things.

So, I am only interested in how standardized tests are put together to
the extent necessary to beat them. Are you familiar with how Cambridge
ESOL does its research and development?
Dallas - 09 Aug 2005 19:27 GMT
Hi,
Yup, i've done a paper on Cambridge ESOL. I'll mail it to ya in a
couple of days if u like.
I agree with what u have said abt Greece and the way things go on
nowadays. I thought thats the case in the middle east only!!!!
Are u originally from greece?
credoquaabsurdum - 10 Aug 2005 23:40 GMT
Send away!

Yes and no. I was born here to Greek parents but I left when I was two
years old and I grew up in the States, far enough away from the Greek
community to commit the ultimate sin and study the Son of the Morning's
language and literature.

> Hi,
> Yup, i've done a paper on Cambridge ESOL. I'll mail it to ya in a
> couple of days if u like.
> I agree with what u have said abt Greece and the way things go on
> nowadays. I thought thats the case in the middle east only!!!!
> Are u originally from greece?
 
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