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Stefanie - 04 Dec 2005 12:52 GMT
Hello,

My professor in high-school gave me an assignment to analyse a news paper
article. I don't understand the following sentence (my native language is
Dutch):
"The Estancia Hotel and Spa in La Jolla, Calif., offers couples sessions
with a photographer, chauffeured shopping excursions, Pilates classes, and a
onesie for the baby."

What is meant by "Pilates classes" and "onesie". I can't find either the
words, either the expression in a dictionary. The internet didn't help me
either.

Could someone provide me an explication of those two expressions?

Thanks in advance,

Stefanie

PS: you can find the artcicle at
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/travel/11906785.htm (The Miami
Herald)
the Omrud - 04 Dec 2005 13:06 GMT
Stefanie <severke@skynet.be> spake thusly:

> Hello,
>
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>
> Could someone provide me an explication of those two expressions?

Pilates is a trendy exercise programme, invented by a German named
Joseph Pilates in the 1880s.  It has recently become very popular
with the type of people who investigate every new trend in exercise.  
It's pronounced pill-ARE-tees
http://www.pilates.com/history.html

"onesie" is what we in the UK call a BabyGro - a one-piece baby
garment which fastens under the nappy.
http://www.cottonsisters.com/baby/babyonesie2.htm

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the Omrud - 04 Dec 2005 13:17 GMT
the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> spake thusly:

> Stefanie <severke@skynet.be> spake thusly:
>
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> It's pronounced pill-ARE-tees
> http://www.pilates.com/history.html

Sorry, I misremembered - he was born in the 1880s but his scheme was
developed in the 20s, as Pierre says.

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Mark Brader - 04 Dec 2005 13:17 GMT
"David" writes:
> Pilates is a trendy exercise programme...
> It's pronounced pill-ARE-tees

Only if you're nonrhotic and think that's the same as pill-AH-teez.
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the Omrud - 04 Dec 2005 13:21 GMT
Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> spake thusly:

> "David" writes:
> > Pilates is a trendy exercise programme...
> > It's pronounced pill-ARE-tees
>
> Only if you're nonrhotic and think that's the same as pill-AH-teez.

I am, and I do.

So there's an interesting question.  Are Belgians rhotic when
speaking English as a foreign language?

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Chess One - 04 Dec 2005 13:57 GMT
> Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> spake thusly:
>
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>
> I am, and I do.

I are!

Is English the only language which has every case of the current tense of
the most popular verb in the language, irregular? [Shakespeare sneakiliy
avoided it by using the infinitive, since otherwise the line would read; Am
I or Aint I? Which even daringly-modern bbc directors do not attempt in
order to be popular and contemporary, since it is no resting place! And one
might as well logically proceed directly to the street with "innit?" which
has a shade of European sophistication by virtue of its negative
interrogative.]

am, but not I is, whereas one is!
are
he/she are, but not it are! it is!
are
are
are

and this is 'proper English'!

In Cornish we adopt the usefully innovative 'm formation, as in you'm.
Avoiding 'you are' by you'ms, and 'we are' by either we-em or us'n!

Negatives are more complicated and I thank Queen Victoria for saying ain't -
which is much less ugly than the modernism aren't. The only wonder is that
aren't only exists as third person, and we dont say I amn't.

Then there is the fabulous introduction to the past tense: was and were with
the impersonal one was and one wasn't.

Phil Innes

> So there's an interesting question.  Are Belgians rhotic when
> speaking English as a foreign language?
Raymond S. Wise - 04 Dec 2005 16:51 GMT
> > Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> spake thusly:
> >
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> has a shade of European sophistication by virtue of its negative
> interrogative.]

I don't know about the "most popular verb" business: "have" is used
more often, since it can function as an auxiliary verb (the use of "be"
as an auxiliary is encountered more rarely).

As for Shakespeare, Hamlet wasn't questioning whether he was, but was
instead questioning whether he should continue to be, so that "To be,
or not to be" is indeed appropriate.

> am, but not I is, whereas one is!
> are
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> and this is 'proper English'!

"Be" doesn't seem all that much more irregular to me than the French
equivalent, "être." In the following I compare the English and French
irregular verbs with regular verbs:

"be"

I am, we are
you are
he (she) is, they are

"return"

I return, we return
you return
he (she) returns, they return

"être"

je suis, nous sommes
tu es, vous êtes
il (elle) est, ils (elles) sont

"rendre"

je rends, nous rendons
tu rends, vous rendez
il (elle) rend, ils (elles) rendent

> In Cornish we adopt the usefully innovative 'm formation, as in you'm.
> Avoiding 'you are' by you'ms, and 'we are' by either we-em or us'n!
>
> Negatives are more complicated and I thank Queen Victoria for saying ain't -
> which is much less ugly than the modernism aren't. The only wonder is that
> aren't only exists as third person, and we dont say I amn't.

To me, "aren't I?" sounds better than "ain't I?" and is less
stiff-sounding than "am I not?"

> Then there is the fabulous introduction to the past tense: was and were with
> the impersonal one was and one wasn't.

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Chess One - 04 Dec 2005 18:48 GMT
I don't know about the "most popular verb" business: "have" is used
more often, since it can function as an auxiliary verb (the use of "be"
as an auxiliary is encountered more rarely).

** that's interesting, i always thought the most popular 2 letter expression
was "I'm" as in "I'm off tut pub!" I'm quite interested in word usage - can
you cite a site which could address this issue?

As for Shakespeare, Hamlet wasn't questioning whether he was, but was
instead questioning whether he should continue to be, so that "To be,
or not to be" is indeed appropriate.

** ay, well, and a sad mess he said of saying so

> Negatives are more complicated and I thank Queen Victoria for saying
> ain't -
> which is much less ugly than the modernism aren't. The only wonder is that
> aren't only exists as third person, and we dont say I amn't.

To me, "aren't I?" sounds better than "ain't I?" and is less
stiff-sounding than "am I not?"

** We aren't amused! I suppose liking one of the other is now a matter of
custom.

> Then there is the fabulous introduction to the past tense: was and were
> with
> the impersonal one was and one wasn't.

** I weren't ! Better the Scots, I wassna.

**Phil

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Dr Zen - 06 Dec 2005 01:56 GMT
With no regard for personal safety or the comfort of others, the Great
"Chess One" <innes8@verizon.net> blathered:

>> Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> spake thusly:
>>
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>
>Is English the only language which has every case

Go to the back of the grammar class, dude.

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to let go of the hand that has been
clinging by its thick country skin
to my yellow country teeth" -- Ounsworth
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Miss Elaine Eos - 04 Dec 2005 14:03 GMT
> "David" writes:
> > Pilates is a trendy exercise programme...
> > It's pronounced pill-ARE-tees

> Only if you're nonrhotic and think that's the same as pill-AH-teez.

Of if you're a pirate!

Arrrr...

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Tony Cooper - 04 Dec 2005 14:05 GMT
>Stefanie <severke@skynet.be> spake thusly:
>
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>with the type of people who investigate every new trend in exercise.  
>It's pronounced pill-ARE-tees

Equally "hot" as a trend here.  I go to Bally's - a health club with
exercise machines - every other day.  They offer Pilates programs, and
the sessions are full.  I thought it was pronounced "Pill-ah-tays",
but I'm not at all sure.  I haven't heard anyone say it that I
consider a person to emulate.

>http://www.pilates.com/history.html
>
>"onesie" is what we in the UK call a BabyGro - a one-piece baby
>garment which fastens under the nappy.
>http://www.cottonsisters.com/baby/babyonesie2.htm

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Charles Riggs - 05 Dec 2005 06:44 GMT
>I go to Bally's - a health club with
>exercise machines - every other day.  

Do you have a private locker there where you can store your Rolex?

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Robert Bannister - 04 Dec 2005 23:54 GMT
> Pilates is a trendy exercise programme, invented by a German named
> Joseph Pilates in the 1880s.  It has recently become very popular
> with the type of people who investigate every new trend in exercise.  
> It's pronounced pill-ARE-tees

I'm so glad you gave the pronunciation. I see the word everywhere. I've
never really wanted to say it, but I knew that if the urge came, I'd be
embarrassed at not knowing.

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the Omrud - 05 Dec 2005 08:39 GMT
Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au> spake thusly:

> > Pilates is a trendy exercise programme, invented by a German named
> > Joseph Pilates in the 1880s.  It has recently become very popular
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> never really wanted to say it, but I knew that if the urge came, I'd be
> embarrassed at not knowing.

I reckon that adopting a pronunciation of Pie-Lates might server to
prick some of the pomposity surrounding this activity, which seems to
be akin to Music And Movement (for the UK over-45s).

And ... rest.
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Owain - 05 Dec 2005 08:40 GMT
> I reckon that adopting a pronunciation of Pie-Lates might server to
> prick some of the pomposity surrounding this activity, which seems to
> be akin to Music And Movement (for the UK over-45s).

Ah yes, Pretentious Pie-Lates :-)

Owain
Linz - 08 Dec 2005 13:14 GMT
> "onesie" is what we in the UK call a BabyGro - a one-piece baby
> garment which fastens under the nappy.
> http://www.cottonsisters.com/baby/babyonesie2.htm

That's a vest, not a babygro. A babygro has arms and legs.
Pat Durkin - 08 Dec 2005 16:13 GMT
>> "onesie" is what we in the UK call a BabyGro - a one-piece baby
>> garment which fastens under the nappy.
>> http://www.cottonsisters.com/baby/babyonesie2.htm
>
> That's a vest, not a babygro. A babygro has arms and legs.

We don't use the term babygro in the US, as far as I know.  The garment
may have a snap crotch for the changing of diapers, or a barndoor or
flap for toilet training, etc.
With arms and legs (including feet/footsies), the onepiece garment  is
usually referred to as a Dr Denton:

http://www.foreverakid.com/faksleepwear.html  for fetishists

and with  more images:

http://tinyurl.com/co78q

Of course, that gets a bit beyond the "onesie".  I always thought of
onesies and twosies as graduated maneuvers in "jacks".
the Omrud - 08 Dec 2005 22:43 GMT
Pat Durkin <durk183@sbcglobal.com> spake thusly:

> >> "onesie" is what we in the UK call a BabyGro - a one-piece baby
> >> garment which fastens under the nappy.
> >> http://www.cottonsisters.com/baby/babyonesie2.htm
> >
> > That's a vest, not a babygro. A babygro has arms and legs.

I think you're right about the legs, but I reckon short arms are
possible in a vrai Babygro.

> We don't use the term babygro in the US, as far as I know.  The garment
> may have a snap crotch for the changing of diapers, or a barndoor or
> flap for toilet training, etc.

"Babygro" is a trade name - presumably they aren't sold in the US.

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Pat Durkin - 09 Dec 2005 03:34 GMT
> Pat Durkin <durk183@sbcglobal.com> spake thusly:
>
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>
> "Babygro" is a trade name - presumably they aren't sold in the US.

Well, as usual with trade names, Dr Dentons became doctor dentons and is
used generically.  Apparently not sold in UK.
Linz - 09 Dec 2005 12:31 GMT
>>> "onesie" is what we in the UK call a BabyGro - a one-piece baby
>>> garment which fastens under the nappy.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> With arms and legs (including feet/footsies), the onepiece garment  is
> usually referred to as a Dr Denton:

I get the impression that in the US the things with arms and legs are
sleepsuits.
Mike Lyle - 09 Dec 2005 13:23 GMT
>>>> "onesie" is what we in the UK call a BabyGro - a one-piece baby
>>>> garment which fastens under the nappy.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I get the impression that in the US the things with arms and legs are
> sleepsuits.

We distinguished by calling the ones with cute feet "babygros",
regardless of label, and the bare-leg ones "crutch-gros". I feel sure
we didn't say the "w".

A friend of a friend once rashly said, during an ooh-ah session,
"Doesn't a babygro look cosy? I'd love to have one of those!" Her
husband, kindly though equally rashly, duly searched the shops and
found an adult-size one-piece spencerish thing in a repellent shade
of off-pink, and proudly wrapped it up as a Christmas present...

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Pat Durkin - 09 Dec 2005 15:24 GMT
>>>> "onesie" is what we in the UK call a BabyGro - a one-piece baby
>>>> garment which fastens under the nappy.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> I get the impression that in the US the things with arms and legs are
> sleepsuits.
Never heard the term.  But I am generally not around baby stuff.  For a
while I kept hearing my nieces use the term "nook" or "nookie", and
really wondered what they were talking about.  Then, in a department
store with my sister, who was shopping for clothing for her newest
grandson, I saw what I understood were "pacifiers".  The brand name of
this baby-bottle nipple substitute was "NUK".  I don't ask how or why it
got a brand name (now used generically) like that.

How does one get to be 69 years of age and miss all of this?  Anyway, my
sister didn't get the doctor dentons.  Too expensive.  And besides, all
the sisters and cousins have a recirculating supply of baby things.
Onesies appear to be very fragile, though, and deteriorate after much
washing.  Besides, they are quickly outgrown.  NUKs are very small and
get lost frequently.  Seems they don't have a clip and strap to attach
them to the clothing, so they fall very unsanitarily on every floor.
Linz - 11 Dec 2005 13:49 GMT
>> I get the impression that in the US the things with arms and legs are
>> sleepsuits.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>get lost frequently.  Seems they don't have a clip and strap to attach
>them to the clothing, so they fall very unsanitarily on every floor.

NUK is a German brand, so you'd have to ask someone German, I think.
NUK does make clips and straps, you have to buy them separately. When
I was attempting to get YoungBloke to take a dummy none of the dummies
I saw came with a strap, I bought one separately. He used to chew that
more than the dummy.
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Pierre Hallet - 04 Dec 2005 13:10 GMT
Stefanie :

> What is meant by "Pilates classes" and "onesie".

Google is your friend. Use it and two minutes later,
you can read:

"Pilates, (pronounced puh-LAH-teez) developed in the
 1920's by physical trainer, Joseph H. Pilates, is an
 exercise system focused on improving flexibility and
 strength for the total body without building bulk.
 Pilates is more than an exercise however. It's a
 series of precisely controlled movements designed
 to engage both mind and body."

"A onesie is a one-piece, t-shirt-like baby garment
 that has snaps at the crotch to keep it from riding
 up and exposing the baby's tummy. Onesies are also
 called bodysuits."

Pierre Hallet
Charles Riggs - 05 Dec 2005 06:44 GMT
>Hello,
>
>My professor in high-school...

The spelling of my esteemed colleague Pat Durkin not withstanding, the
word is "high school", Stefanie -- no hyphen.

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John Ramsay - 06 Dec 2005 03:05 GMT
> >Hello,
> >
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> --
> Charles Riggs

You're right about the hyphen, but there's long been a tendency
to use high school as a compound noun, e.g. ' I learned
a lot in high school.'

But as a single word word as an adjective, e.g.  'I have a
highschool certificate.'
 
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