english speaking issue
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HighHopes - 12 Mar 2006 13:45 GMT let me get to the point, i can read, write and understand english well, i can undersatnnd every accent, like american, british etc, but i am having lots of difficulty speaking english, when i am speaking english, i forgot words etc, what is the issue here, has anyone had same isssue, or do u have any suggestions for me, any suggestions will be appreciated!!! thanks
Django Cat - 12 Mar 2006 15:23 GMT > let me get to the point, i can read, write and understand english > well, i can undersatnnd every accent, like american, british etc, but > i am having lots of difficulty speaking english, when i am speaking > english, i forgot words etc, what is the issue here, has anyone had > same isssue, or do u have any suggestions for me, Yeah, start using capital letters.
Enrico C - 12 Mar 2006 16:26 GMT On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:23:17 -0600, Django Cat wrote in <news:HOqdnaMYnaJIs4nZRVnysg@brightview.com> on misc.education.language.english :
>> same isssue, or do u have any suggestions for me, > > Yeah, start using capital letters. And "you" instead of "u". :)
HighHopes - 13 Mar 2006 11:42 GMT u mother** u think its funny, i wish the same happen to both of u that is happening to me and then u will understand how it feels, and as far as capital and u is concerned, i just have 2 words for the two of u , f you
Enrico C - 13 Mar 2006 14:20 GMT On 13 Mar 2006 02:42:39 -0800, HighHopes wrote in <news:1142246559.546102.215180@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> on misc.education.language.english :
> u mother** u think its funny, i wish the same happen to both of u that > is happening to me and then u will understand how it feels, and as far > as capital and u is concerned, i just have 2 words for the two of u , f > you Don't be shy, tell us what you really think.
;)
btw, plonk!
Django Cat - 14 Mar 2006 20:45 GMT > On 13 Mar 2006 02:42:39 -0800, HighHopes wrote in > <news:1142246559.546102.215180@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > btw, plonk! Yeah, and certainly the next guy.
Nrdo Hesson - 13 Mar 2006 22:39 GMT > u mother** u think its funny, i wish the same happen to both of u that > is happening to me and then u will understand how it feels, and as far > as capital and u is concerned, i just have 2 words for the two of u , f > you good, well-deserved response
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Django Cat - 14 Mar 2006 20:44 GMT > u mother** u think its funny, i wish the same happen to both of u that > is happening to me What *is* happening to you then? Seriously - and if you want to flame people you can find someone else thanks, I'm not interested - posting to newsgroups can be helpful in improving your English. If you want to use MELE to ask for advice on your English you'll find a lot of people here prepared to help.
Doing things like writing without capitalisation makes you harder to understand than necessary - and as a non-native speaker you already have enough issues that can make you hard to understand - winds people up unnecessarily (that's a good phrasal you could learn), doesn't make you look in any way cool and won't get you the answers you want.
Oh, and FU2.
DC
Jan - 15 Mar 2006 16:18 GMT Hello HighHopes,
I agree with Django when he says that writing without capitals makes you harder to understand.
When I read your message, it sounded as though you'd written it in a REAL hurry, probably because there were no full stops. As if you had a lot to say and had to say it very fast. Is this how you feel when you are speaking, too? Wanting to say too much, too fast may be part of your problem. What do you think?
Jan
HighHopes - 16 Mar 2006 12:02 GMT HighHopes - 16 Mar 2006 12:06 GMT Yes u are correct. This is one and the only problem, everytime i speak there's a lot to say in very short time and this has made me pathetic speaker, i will work on this, thanks :)
> Hello HighHopes, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jan suheylaander@gmail.com - 19 Mar 2006 14:57 GMT hi! i think u wrote it on my idea about the speaking problem. ur welcome!
Rose Melinis - 19 Mar 2006 18:39 GMT Listening and reading are two distinct disciplines. Speaking is another.
What is occurring is that when speaking you are either consciously or unconsciously formulating your words in your native language. Your brain then does the translation into English. Your native language sentence structure probably differs from English a great deal, for example Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese, Tagalog, etc. This causes the spoken words to be jerky, with many gaps while the brain catches up.
> Yes u are correct. This is one and the only problem, everytime i speak > there's a lot to say in very short time and this has made me pathetic [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> Jan suheylaander@gmail.com - 15 Mar 2006 18:05 GMT i think this problem stems from the attitude during learning the target language .if the target is not to communicate in the language but to pass an exam or sth else this problem is usually faced. the student and of course the teacher should have tried to be creative. if they had tried to use their own sentences and struggled to create new sentences and looked for new words they may have been much more successful in communicating in the target language.
Tomasz Dryjanski - 22 Mar 2006 16:17 GMT > let me get to the point, i can read, write and understand english well, > i can undersatnnd every accent, like american, british etc, but i am > having lots of difficulty speaking english, when i am speaking english, > i forgot words etc, what is the issue here, has anyone had same isssue, > or do u have any suggestions for me, any suggestions will be > appreciated!!! thanks In my case, reading a lot did help. I think this is because I learned common phrases by heart, now I just recall them, and it does the half of the speach. :) Besides, try "internal speaking", i.e. only in your mind. Just one rule: keep to a concrete subject, let your speach have some sense.
BTW offending people is not the best way to get their help.
T. D.
PS. I would be grateful if you point out any language mistakes in what I've written. As usual. :)
Tomasz Dryjanski - 22 Mar 2006 16:17 GMT > In my case, reading a lot did help. I think this is because > I learned common phrases by heart, now I just recall them, and it does "I've learned", obviously.
T. D.
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