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HighHopes - 12 Mar 2006 13:45 GMT
let me get to the point, i can read, write and understand english well,
i can undersatnnd every accent, like american, british etc, but i am
having lots of difficulty speaking english, when i am speaking english,
i forgot words etc, what is the issue here, has anyone had same isssue,
or do u have any suggestions for me, any suggestions will be
appreciated!!! thanks
Django Cat - 12 Mar 2006 15:23 GMT
> let me get to the point, i can read, write and understand english
> well, i can undersatnnd every accent, like american, british etc, but
> i am having lots of difficulty speaking english, when i am speaking
> english, i forgot words etc, what is the issue here, has anyone had
> same isssue, or do u have any suggestions for me,

Yeah, start using capital letters.
Enrico C - 12 Mar 2006 16:26 GMT
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:23:17 -0600, Django Cat wrote in
<news:HOqdnaMYnaJIs4nZRVnysg@brightview.com> on
misc.education.language.english :

>> same isssue, or do u have any suggestions for me,
>
> Yeah, start using capital letters.

And "you" instead of "u". :)
HighHopes - 13 Mar 2006 11:42 GMT
u mother** u think its funny, i wish the same happen to both of u that
is happening to me and then u will understand how it feels, and as far
as capital and u is concerned, i just have 2 words for the two of u , f
you
Enrico C - 13 Mar 2006 14:20 GMT
On 13 Mar 2006 02:42:39 -0800, HighHopes wrote in
<news:1142246559.546102.215180@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> on
misc.education.language.english :

> u mother** u think its funny, i wish the same happen to both of u that
> is happening to me and then u will understand how it feels, and as far
> as capital and u is concerned, i just have 2 words for the two of u , f
> you

Don't be shy, tell us what you really think.

;)

btw, plonk!
Django Cat - 14 Mar 2006 20:45 GMT
> On 13 Mar 2006 02:42:39 -0800, HighHopes wrote in
> <news:1142246559.546102.215180@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> on
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>
> btw, plonk!

Yeah, and certainly the next guy.
Nrdo Hesson - 13 Mar 2006 22:39 GMT
> u mother** u think its funny, i wish the same happen to both of u that
> is happening to me and then u will understand how it feels, and as far
> as capital and u is concerned, i just have 2 words for the two of u , f
> you

good, well-deserved response

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Django Cat - 14 Mar 2006 20:44 GMT
> u mother** u think its funny, i wish the same happen to both of u that
> is happening to me

What *is* happening to you then?  Seriously - and if you want to flame
people you can find someone else thanks, I'm not interested - posting
to newsgroups can be helpful in improving your English.  If you want to
use MELE to ask for advice on your English you'll find a lot of people
here prepared to help.

Doing things like writing without capitalisation makes you harder to
understand than necessary - and as a non-native speaker you already
have enough issues that can make you hard to understand - winds people
up unnecessarily (that's a good phrasal you could learn), doesn't make
you look in any way cool and won't get you the answers you want.

Oh, and FU2.

DC
Jan - 15 Mar 2006 16:18 GMT
Hello HighHopes,

I agree with Django when he says that writing without capitals makes
you harder to understand.

When I read your message, it sounded as though you'd written it in a
REAL hurry, probably because there were no full stops. As if you had a
lot to say and had to say it very fast. Is this how you feel when you
are speaking, too? Wanting to say too much, too fast may be part of
your problem. What do you think?

Jan
HighHopes - 16 Mar 2006 12:02 GMT
HighHopes - 16 Mar 2006 12:06 GMT
Yes u are correct. This is one and the only problem, everytime i speak
there's a lot to say in very short time and this has made me pathetic
speaker, i will work on this, thanks  :)

> Hello HighHopes,
>
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>
> Jan
suheylaander@gmail.com - 19 Mar 2006 14:57 GMT
hi! i think u wrote it on my idea about the speaking problem. ur
welcome!
Rose Melinis - 19 Mar 2006 18:39 GMT
Listening and reading are two distinct disciplines. Speaking is another.

What is occurring is that when speaking you are either consciously or
unconsciously formulating your words in your native language. Your brain
then does the translation into English. Your native language sentence
structure probably differs from English a great deal, for example Mandarin,
Cantonese, Japanese, Tagalog, etc. This causes the spoken words to be jerky,
with many gaps while the brain catches up.

> Yes u are correct. This is one and the only problem, everytime i speak
> there's a lot to say in very short time and this has made me pathetic
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>
>> Jan
suheylaander@gmail.com - 15 Mar 2006 18:05 GMT
i think this problem stems from the attitude during learning the
target language .if the target is not to communicate in the language
but to pass an exam or sth else this problem is usually  faced. the
student and of course the teacher should have tried to be creative. if
they had tried to use their own sentences and struggled to create new
sentences and looked for new words they may have been much more
successful in communicating in the target language.
Tomasz Dryjanski - 22 Mar 2006 16:17 GMT
> let me get to the point, i can read, write and understand english well,
> i can undersatnnd every accent, like american, british etc, but i am
> having lots of difficulty speaking english, when i am speaking english,
> i forgot words etc, what is the issue here, has anyone had same isssue,
> or do u have any suggestions for me, any suggestions will be
> appreciated!!! thanks

In my case, reading a lot did help. I think this is because
I learned common phrases by heart, now I just recall them, and it does
the half of the speach. :)
Besides, try "internal speaking", i.e. only in your mind. Just one rule:
keep to a concrete subject, let your speach have some sense.

BTW offending people is not the best way to get their help.

T. D.

PS. I would be grateful if you point out any language mistakes
in what I've written. As usual. :)
Tomasz Dryjanski - 22 Mar 2006 16:17 GMT
> In my case, reading a lot did help. I think this is because
> I learned common phrases by heart, now I just recall them, and it does

"I've learned", obviously.

T. D.
 
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