What matters after all is never how saved or whole one is, but the
extent to which one restores to others, through presence and passion, a
sense of possibility and independence. As for myself, what I prize
among my comrades these days has nothing to do with enlightenment or
heightened consciousness. It is instead a fierceness, an animal
tenacity, a sense one sometimes gets from others of a complex, evolving
person, of a rare and lusty insistence on a complex, honest and solitary
privacy that protects life in the flesh against abstractions, ideals and
even salvation itself. The most difficult task of all is to steer
between exhaustion and illusion, between resignation and escape into
dogma.
Those who try it will find a kind of grimness and weariness, a kind
of loneliness. But if they are lucky, they will also get a glimpse here
and there of light and depth, an occasional sense of freedom and
potency, a few good comrades to hold in their thoughts and arms.
- Peter Marin
gendo: a way of thinking...
language as a path to liberation...
.unconscious, erroneous assumptions imposed upon our thinking
by the structure of the language (english) running in our
skulls are responsible for most of what is wrong with the
world in both the personal and planetary domains
what: open discussion
who: anyone interested in relationships between language/
liberation/etc.
why: because you know language is important
when: monday evenings, 20:00 to 21:00, california time
how: VoiP... http://www.gizmoproject.com/
where: 1222gendo
heron
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Reinhold (Rey) Aman - 17 Mar 2006 07:23 GMT
> What matters after all is never how saved or whole one is,
[...]
f.ck off and die.
~~~ Rey ~~~
heron stone - 18 Mar 2006 03:16 GMT
hey Rey
.i'm curious why you are so upset by my post
?why don't you just killfile me
.i've made it really easy to do that
?do you enjoy being angry
.that's not a healthy state
.you might want to visit your doctor and get tested for high
blood pressure and bad manners
.people with your disorder often die prematurely from stroke
and heart attack
.and then we would all miss out on your fabulous contribution
.good luck
.keep reading... or not
.no hard feelings
heron
> > What matters after all is never how saved or whole one is,
>
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>
> ~~~ Rey ~~~
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Reinhold (Rey) Aman - 18 Mar 2006 05:00 GMT
> hey Rey
>
> .i'm curious why you are so upset by my post
[...]
I'm not upset. Others have told you to can your goofy sh.t and keep it
out of <alt.usage.english>.
Nobody here is interested in your idiosyncratic crap.
Thus, again: Please f.ck off and die.
Thank you.
~~~ Rey ~~~
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heron stone - 18 Mar 2006 17:19 GMT
> > hey Rey
> >
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>
> ~~~ Rey ~~~
?so why do you keep reading it
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Murray Arnow - 18 Mar 2006 17:31 GMT
>> > hey Rey
>> >
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>
>?so why do you keep reading it
I'm not sure you understand how this Usenet thing works. There are times when
we can't help but read your posts. Your posts may be included in replies by
others and not show your name in the "From:" line. And the way you trim the
previous posters' attribute lines, it is not easy to know who said what in
anything you post. All in all, you do have a tendency to make things more
difficult than need be. So it isn't difficult to understand why someone would
politely ask you to "f.ck off and die."
Al in Dallas - 18 Mar 2006 18:32 GMT
>>> > hey Rey
>>> >
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>difficult than need be. So it isn't difficult to understand why someone would
>politely ask you to "f.ck off and die."
Her/his sh.t was thoroughly responded to in a subthread beginning
with:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/5fe0663d7e191eac?hl=en&
That's Google's "short" URL.

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the Omrud - 18 Mar 2006 18:32 GMT
Al in Dallas <alfargnoli@yahoo.com> had it:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/5fe0663d7e191eac?hl=en&
>
> That's Google's "short" URL.
You can also lose the language parameter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/5fe0663d7e191eac

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Don Aitken - 18 Mar 2006 20:23 GMT
>Al in Dallas <alfargnoli@yahoo.com> had it:
>
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>You can also lose the language parameter:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/5fe0663d7e191eac
And the "groups":
http://google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/5fe0663d7e191eac

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Al in Dallas - 19 Mar 2006 02:01 GMT
>>Al in Dallas <alfargnoli@yahoo.com> had it:
>>
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>
>http://google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/5fe0663d7e191eac
How convenient! I had no idea.

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Daniel al-Autistiqui - 23 Mar 2006 17:55 GMT
>heightened consciousness. It is instead a fierceness, an animal
>tenacity, a sense one sometimes gets from others of a complex, evolving
>person, of a rare and lusty insistence on a complex, honest and solitary
>privacy that protects life in the flesh against abstractions, ideals and
>even salvation itself. The most difficult task of all is to steer
Rare?
daniel mcgrath

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Pat Durkin - 23 Mar 2006 20:11 GMT
>>heightened consciousness. It is instead a fierceness, an animal
>>tenacity, a sense one sometimes gets from others of a complex,
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>
> Rare?
Go for it, Daniel.