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Eberhard Janssen - 17 Feb 2007 17:40 GMT
I want to change the follow aktive sentence into passiv:

ordinary, or soft, solder melts at temperatures below 430°, but brazing
alloys, sometimes called hard solder, melt above that temperature.

my solution:
temperatures below 430° are melted ordinary, or soft, solder, temperature
above that is melted brazing alloys, sometimes called hard solder.

is it right?
John Ramsay - 18 Feb 2007 01:19 GMT
>I want to change the follow aktive sentence into passiv:
>
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>
>  

No. Should be.

ordinary, or soft, solder is melted at temperatures below 430°, but brazing
alloys, sometimes called hard solder, are melted above that temperature.
Einde O'Callaghan - 18 Feb 2007 07:54 GMT
John Ramsay schrieb:

>> I want to change the follow aktive sentence into passiv:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> brazing alloys, sometimes called hard solder, are melted above that
> temperature.

The passive structure sounds strange to me - after all, it's the solder
that melts.

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
Owain - 18 Feb 2007 12:42 GMT
> John Ramsay schrieb:
>> No. Should be.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> The passive structure sounds strange to me - after all, it's the solder
> that melts.

Or is melted by the application of heat, and the action of applying the
heat is the melting.

Cookery books usually instruct: "melt the butter" not "make the butter
melt".

I agree the passive is strange in the example, but test questions often
bear little resemblance to Real Life(tm).

Owain
karenstanleyma@gmail.com - 24 Feb 2007 19:13 GMT
On Feb 17, 12:40 pm, "Eberhard Janssen" <eberhard.jans...@gmx.de>
wrote:
> I want to change the follow aktive sentence into passiv:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> is it right?

First, for an active sentence to be transformed into a passive
sentence, there must be a direct object.  The object of a preposition
is not a direct object.

Second, as used in this sentence, the verb "melt" falls into a special
category sometimes known as "ergative" verbs.

Other examples:
The ball rolled slowly down the hill.
The glass broke when it fell on the tile floor.
Most ships sink if they have a hole in the hull.

Karen
 
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