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kat - 19 Oct 2003 22:42 GMT
I do not understand when it is right to use the verb 'got' and the verb
'have'. I always make mistakes but do not understand. Is 'got' only for past
tense uses? To say," I got an A ' is proper but to say "I got my son with
me" is not. Why?

Thank you,
Jorge Luis
Owain - 20 Oct 2003 13:40 GMT
"kat" wrote
| I do not understand when it is right to use the verb 'got' and the
| verb 'have'. I always make mistakes but do not understand. Is
| 'got' only for past tense uses? To say," I got an A ' is proper
| but to say "I got my son with me" is not. Why?

You use got when there is a meaning of give/receive:

I got an A - I received an A
I got a present on my birthday - I was given a present

You don't use got when there is only possession/ownership

I have got a big car  )  use: I have a red car
I got a big car       )

Owain
Django Cat - 20 Oct 2003 19:20 GMT
> "kat" wrote
> | I do not understand when it is right to use the verb 'got' and the
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> Owain

Not so, I'm afraid, "I have got a big car" for possession is fine at
least in BrE:-

"I've (have) got a really old car";
"She's (has) got a nice face";
or indeed
"I've (have) got a lovely bunch of coconuts"
or figuratively
"They haven't got a chance".

All of these involve possession, not 'giving or receiving'.

Kat, "I got an 'A'" is fine - it means say, 'my teacher gave me full
marks'.  But the verb 'get' involves movement; something comes to the
subject of the verb. "I got my son with me" is wrong because the
preposition 'with' suggests a state without movement; at the time of
the verb father and son were already together.  Compare these
sentences:-

"I got my son from school"
"I got my son an ice cream"
or that 'have got' possesion form:-
"I have got my son with me"

Basically, don't get the verb 'to get' meaning "give or receive",
confused with "have" or "have got" for possession, and the verb 'get'
doesn't usually go with the preposition 'with'.

Best regards
DC Cat
kat - 20 Oct 2003 21:18 GMT
I'm not sure if I send this correctly or not so excuse my errors.

I have  extras questions on this topic.

Does it matter if I use "got" with contractions of have like "I've" and then
it is proper? For example, "I've got" is OK but I have got is wrong?

Also, the lady that lets me use her computer is named Kat. But your name is
Cat. She said that Cat is an animal if it is spelled with a C big or small
and a proper name if it is with K. Why are you a person called Cat?Is this
possible?

Thank you very much,
J.Luis (who is not a cat or a dog)ha ha
Einde O'Callaghan - 21 Oct 2003 05:47 GMT
> I'm not sure if I send this correctly or not so excuse my errors.
>
> I have  extras questions on this topic.
>
> Does it matter if I use "got" with contractions of have like "I've" and then
> it is proper? For example, "I've got" is OK but I have got is wrong?

No - "I have got" is perfectly OK - indeed it's often used in more
formal writing, although "I have" is more formal still.

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack ) - 25 Oct 2003 04:32 GMT
> I'm not sure if I send this correctly or not so excuse my errors.
>
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> and a proper name if it is with K. Why are you a person called Cat?Is this
> possible?

I don't know why she is called 'Kat'. Maybe it is short for Katrina.
People can be named almost anything. There is a singer who used to be
called "Cat Stevens" before he converted to Islam, so it isn't true that
"Cat" spelled normally can't be a proper name.
Django Cat - 25 Oct 2003 14:29 GMT
> I'm not sure if I send this correctly or not so excuse my errors.
>
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> Thank you very much,
> J.Luis (who is not a cat or a dog)ha ha

It's not my real name Jorge Luis... ... ... I do have a cat called
Django, but her English is pretty poor so she doesn't do many
postings.

I don't think I've ever come across anybody who has the first name Cat
or Kat - maybe your friend is thinking of Kate?  There's also other
various shortened forms of Katherine and Catherine such as Cath...

Regards
DC
 
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