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"very flashy" vs. "very flash"

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Magnus - 24 Oct 2003 23:35 GMT
Person A asks person B what he or she thinks about his/her
new car (or whatever) and person B responds with:

"It's very flashy" (1)
or
"It's very flash" (2)

(1) seems to be the more common expression, but is there
any difference in meaning between (1) and (2)?

Thanks.
Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack ) - 25 Oct 2003 00:31 GMT
> Person A asks person B what he or she thinks about his/her
> new car (or whatever) and person B responds with:
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> (1) seems to be the more common expression, but is there
> any difference in meaning between (1) and (2)?

I've never heard (2) but then it might be slang that is hipper than I
want to be.
Django Cat - 25 Oct 2003 14:03 GMT
> Person A asks person B what he or she thinks about his/her
> new car (or whatever) and person B responds with:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thanks.

I'd use both of these, Magnus, and in slightly diferent ways:-

- "Mmm, flash new car!"  I'm approving, admiring the car - flash tells
us its not only a nice car, but also expensive.

- "That new car he's bought is a bit flashy" - I don't approve of the
new car - its expensive, but also ostentatious - the guy has possibly
bought it to show off how much money he has.

Best regards
DC
Magnus - 25 Oct 2003 15:43 GMT
> > Person A asks person B what he or she thinks about his/her
> > new car (or whatever) and person B responds with:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> new car - its expensive, but also ostentatious - the guy has possibly
> bought it to show off how much money he has.

Thanks, Django Cat.
I was confused by my dictionary (Oxford Advanced Learner's, 5th edition),
which lists both flashy and flash as being derogatory. Your explanation
corresponds better with what I was thinking before I looked it up.
Is there perhaps a difference in usage between British and American English?
Or has the usage changed in recent years and I need to get a newer
dictionary (the one I have is from 1995)?
Django Cat - 25 Oct 2003 20:47 GMT
> > "Magnus" <popeinstein@yahoo.se> wrote in message
>  news:<fPhmb.30967$mU6.83246@newsb.telia.net>...
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> Or has the usage changed in recent years and I need to get a newer
> dictionary (the one I have is from 1995)?

Magnus, I think you're right that this is a British not American
usage.  It's not that recent though - I think I've probably used it at
least since the 1970's and there's a related usage, a 'Flash Harry'
(someone who dresses expensively but probably got their money
dishonestly) which dates back to at least the 1950s and is now pretty
much out of date.

Your dictionary has a point about both words being being derogatory
though.  Flashy, defintely is, and flash, because of it's definite
informality could be seen to be so.  So you could say to a friend:-

"I hear you've got a flash new job" (you're pleased, but you don't
want your friend to think you take him *too* seriously) - but you
wouldn't say this to your boss.  Equally you could imagine this
conversation between friends, where maybe there's an element of
jealousy:-

"Have you seen my new Rolex?"
"Very flash".

My Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English from 1978 has this to
say:-

Flash - modern, attractive and costly-looking: "That's a very flash
car - where did you get it?"

Flashy - over-ornamemnted; unpleasantly big, bright, etc and perhaps
not of good quality: "a large flashy car/cheap flashy clothes" compare
flash.

Regards
DC Cat
Magnus - 25 Oct 2003 21:26 GMT
> > > "Magnus" <popeinstein@yahoo.se> wrote in message
> >  news:<fPhmb.30967$mU6.83246@newsb.telia.net>...
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> not of good quality: "a large flashy car/cheap flashy clothes" compare
> flash.

Django Cat, Thank you for taking the time to write this very detailed and
informative answer. I'll be happy to assist you if you ever have a question
about the Swedish language :-)
 
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