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Mark - 28 Oct 2003 17:12 GMT
"the Florida Legislature passed a law tailored to her case that authorized Gov. Jeb Bush to issue a one-time stay, which he promptly did"

I have seen precedents placed away from their relative pronouns like above.
My question is how much the identification of precedent is dependent on the context like above.
If we don't understand the context, "her case" could be a precedent.
If there are several nouns connected with prepositions before the relative pronoun, the only way to figure out a precedent is totally from the context. Am I right?

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CyberCypher - 28 Oct 2003 23:50 GMT
> "the Florida Legislature passed a law tailored to her case that
> authorized Gov. Jeb Bush to issue a one-time stay, which he
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> precedent is dependent on the context like above. If we don't
> understand the context, "her case" could be a precedent.

"her case" cannot be the referent of "which", in this case, because
it doesn't fit the grammar of the relative clause; the "which" there
demands a verb phrase because of "he did".

While it's true that most relative pronouns immediately follow what
they refer to, it is also true, as you have pointed out, that some
relative pronouns are rather distant from their referents, which
sometimes causes ambiguity or a false scent. If the language used is
not used skillfully enough to immediately present a clear
understanding in the reader or listener, then, yes, one must appeal
to context.

> If there
> are several nouns connected with prepositions before the relative
> pronoun, the only way to figure out a precedent is totally from
> the context. Am I right?

It all depends upon the sentence. Please provide an example of such a
confusing one.

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Mark - 29 Oct 2003 01:48 GMT
> > "the Florida Legislature passed a law tailored to her case that
> > authorized Gov. Jeb Bush to issue a one-time stay, which he
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> it doesn't fit the grammar of the relative clause; the "which" there
> demands a verb phrase because of "he did".

I was relating her case to "that authorized" not "which he promptly did" .
By the way, what's the referent of which?
It seems to me that "one-time stay" is  siche "he promptly issued a one-time
stay"

> While it's true that most relative pronouns immediately follow what
> they refer to, it is also true, as you have pointed out, that some
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> It all depends upon the sentence. Please provide an example of such a
> confusing one.

I don't come up with any sentence now. Thanks for explaining, cyber!

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CyberCypher - 29 Oct 2003 05:21 GMT
>> > "the Florida Legislature passed a law tailored to her case that
>> > authorized Gov. Jeb Bush to issue a one-time stay, which he
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> It seems to me that "one-time stay" is  siche "he promptly issued
> a one-time stay"

I apologize for any confusion. There are two relative pronouns in the
sentence, "that" and "which".

Yes, in this case, there is a slight possibility for error in
deciding which the referent is, but given the structure and semantics
of the relative clause (RC), it cannot be other than the entire noun
phrase (NP) "a law tailored to her case", or, much more simply,
"law".

The structure of the NP + RC is restrictive. If it referred to "her
case", it would be awkward. Instead of "her", "the" (or "one" or "a")
would be preferred if not absolutely required. In that event, though,
the final RC, "which he promptly did", would have to be placed at the
front of the sentence:

  "Gov. Jeb Bush promptly issued a stay after
  the Florida Legislature passed a law tailored
  to another case that authorized the governor
  to issue a one-time stay in similar circumstances."

--- but in this case, "tailored to" would have to be replaced by
"patterned after" --- or else removed from the sentence. Another way
to have the RC refer to "her case" would be to use a non-restrictive
structure (commas before and after the RC) and the pronoun "which".
Ideally, though, the sentence would have to be rewritten because it
would be too complex and awkward.

Cases do not authorize anything; they set precedents. Laws, however,
do authorize things, so the possibility of misunderstanding is not a
matter of grammar but of understanding the difference between "case"
and "law". And, of course, there is such a thing as "case law" in
American jurisprudence (British, too, I think, where it's called
"common law"), but that means law decided on the basis of precedent
cases.

>> While it's true that most relative pronouns immediately follow
>> what they refer to, it is also true, as you have pointed out,
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> I don't come up with any sentence now. Thanks for explaining,
> cyber!

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